[urroner]

So, the Nicene Creed was produced so there could be a standard definition of what God is and His relationship with Christ and the Holy Ghost. It was produced so to stop the serious infighting within the early Christian Church. Many of the Early Church Fathers had great disagreements on that relationship and they weren’t just a bunch of Gnostics.

What I find so disturbing about the Nicene Creed is that so many Christians treat it as if it is scripture and it isn’t. The Nicene creed was produced by a bunch of men within and without the early Christian Church trying to decide for everybody else exactly what God is.

As a Mormon, I hear all the time that I’m putting my trust in the arm of man when I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, but are not the Christians who demand that I accept a non_Biblical proclamation doing the exact same thing? They insist that the Nicene Creed isn’t a product of man, that it came from God, but that is strictly a belief that I find suspicious and very wanting.

If I am guilty of putting my faith in the arm of man because I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and that God spoke through him, aren’t all Christians then guilty of the same thing when they trust the writings of men like Isaiah, Moses, Paul, Peter, John, Matthew, etc?

[Revelation 911]

follow the thought - If I am guilty of putting my faith in the arm of man because I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and that God spoke through him, aren’t all Christians then guilty of the same thing when they trust the writings of men like Isaiah, Moses, Paul, Peter, John, Matthew, etc?

All were either proven true prophets or apostles in the original sense. You need to point to their false prophecies for one - secondly - i see no indication Smith is either a restored prophet, or a re-continuation of the apostolic line you claim ceased with the death of Christs immediate apostles.

To the contrary with Mormonism, we see Smith elevating himself above the apostles and above the Church

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Im with you on the Nicene being thought of as "scriptural" or leastways elevated on the same par......I see it instead as a tool of man to define the understanding of the Godhead...based in Scripture...

[Elsie]

What I find so disturbing about the Nicene Creed is that so many Christians treat it as if it is scripture and it isn’t.

What I find so disturbing about the Nicene Creed is that MORMONism treats it as if it where the very Blood of Dracula!