Posted on 03/15/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by Colofornian
Edited on 03/23/2010 6:15:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Seriously? We are supposed to take that seriously? ROTFL!
Dictator not only means an absolute ruler, but it can also mean a person who dictates, as to a secretary. Joseph Smith dictated the words of the Lord, therefore he was a dictator.
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Wow that is a lame twisting.
BY said ‘do’ not ‘write’. Do what he told them.
Not even a good try.
I fainted from that spin. Where do you come up with these?
Why did Joe “dictator” the words of the lord? Why didn’t he write them down himself? Oh yea, he was illiterate.
Oh yea, he was illiterate.
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There is some dispute about that. His father (and possibly his mother) worked as a schoolteacher so he would have been educated at home.
It was not unusual for people to not have formal educations in the early 19th C. Learning was passed from parent to child or in church. Most common ‘reader’ would have been the KJV Bible.
That does not mean, however, that Smith was a great speller and he did often use scribes.
me too. I was trying to be clear and differentiate terms but not angry or hateful at all.
Well, its not surprising really. lds view Jesus as weak and water tossing as persecution, their bar for “hate” is very very very low.
‘hate’ to the Mormons = not thinking they are the ‘only true church’ or pointing out any inconsistencies in their church/theology.
If we really loved them, we would just leave them alone. /s
Let's take this real practical for a moment. You are with your child or children. He/she/they see someone commit a very obvious sin...stealing at a supermarket...shacking up...somebody picking up a prostitute...you name it.
Now if they are pre-adolescent, and you want to make your standards clear, you're going to take that opportunity (once removed a bit from the firsthand reality) to make that a "teachable moment," right? You're going to want to instill or reinforce your standards, your values, right?
Now we do that in our immediate family...
...our extended families @ holidays & birthdays & reunions...
...our church family...
...and FR is our extended conservative "family"
We are here to reinforce conservative values (among other reasons). One of us giving feedback to our family that cohabitating isn't kosher is not "stoning" that person; it's recognizing that our world has gone awry and we have a responsibility to inject our voice! That's true @ the family microcosm level -- and it's true @ the societal macrocosm level [like this thread].
Would you have thrown the stone since you have completed working on your own salvation? I mean, you have nothing to worry about right?
The apostle Peter, whom Jesus entrusted to feed the sheep, wrote: "Commit the keeping [of your soul] to God in well doing." (1 Peter 4:19, KJV)
So that's what I'm doing...I'm entrusting My SoulKeeper to keep it.
They have to believe and live a certain way to receive that gift. Repentance, humility, forgiveness, good will, love and all of the virtues that Christ espoused must be part of the rebuilding of oneself in order to receive that gift. This is all part of preparing YOUR SELF.
OK, the Bible does talk some about edifying ourselves...like Jude 20: But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit.
Please note two things:
(1) The apostle Paul calls for us to be "transformed" by the renewing of our minds (Romans 12:1-2)...we really can't transform ourselves...even Jude says in this verse above that we don't pray in our own fleshly effort, but we "pray in the Holy Spirit".
(2) Jude is using "faith" here as a content word...like in Jude 3 where he said we should "contend for the faith once delivered to the saints." IOW, we have nothing to do with that foundation of beliefs established long ago -- other than receiving it in faith and applying it to all of our lives.
If you want to know why there's so much discussion on these things on FR, we are following Jude's encouragement to so contend. That faith as a body of belief & entrustment was once delivered to the saints; and the apostle Paul prophesied the church would give glory to God throughout ALL ages (Eph. 3:21). There was no 100% or near 100% apostasy, as johnny-come-lately Mormons contend.
They speak slander against us and our spiritual ancestors. We are merely responding to those charges.
Movin’ on up,
To the Priesthood...
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You just HAD to do it, didn’t you...*sigh* well, here goes.
Movin’ on up,
In the Priesthood.
To a gold plated mansion in the CK
Movin’ on up,
In the Priesthood.
I’ll finally be a god on my own.
No more Priesthood meeting;
No more bishop’s bills.
Took a whole lotta payin’,
Just to get to the Temple.
Now we’re up for godhood,
Place the stone in the hat.
As long as we live, it’s now polygamy,
There ain’t nothin wrong with that.
Movin’ on up,
In the Priesthood.
To a gold plated mansion in the CK
Movin’ on up,
In the Priesthood.
I’ll finally be a god on my own.
Suppose a prophet of the Lord came up to you and dictated or told you what the Lord would have you DO, would you DO what the prophet dictated to you?
No twisting of the context there.
Don’t expect them to know the different betweet United Order Zion The Lord’s plan and One World Order Lucifer agenda.
They still do not acknowledge the war in Heaven nor the one that continues here on earth!
They haven’t bother to search the scriptures only to work in that small frame of the precepts of men.
Rev. 12: 7
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev. 19: 11
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
2 Ne. 25: 12
12 But, behold, they shall have wars, and rumors of wars; and when the day cometh that the Only Begotten of the Father, yea, even the Father of heaven and of earth, shall manifest himself unto them in the flesh, behold, they will reject him, because of their iniquities, and the hardness of their hearts, and the stiffness of their necks.
D&C 45: 69
69 And there shall be gathered unto it out of every nation under heaven; and it shall be the only people that shall not be at war one with another.
D&C 88: 79
79 Of things both in heaven and in the earth, and under the earth; things which have been, things which are, things which must shortly come to pass; things which are at home, things which are abroad; the wars and the perplexities of the nations, and the judgments which are on the land; and a knowledge also of countries and of kingdoms
Deut. 10: 17
17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
Rev. 17: 14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
con’t
Deut. 10: 17
17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:
Rom. 3: 30
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
1 Tim. 2: 5
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
2 Ne. 27: 11
11 And the day cometh that the words of the book which were sealed shall be read upon the house tops; and they shall be read by the power of Christ; and all things shall be revealed unto the children of men which ever have been among the children of men, and which ever will be even unto the end of the earth.
2 Ne. 30: 16
16 Wherefore, the things of all nations shall be made known; yea, all things shall be made known unto the children of men.
D&C 101: 32.
32 Yea, verily I say unto you, in that day when the Lord shall come, he shall reveal all things
Rom. 3: 30 (28-31)
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
1 Tim. 2: 5.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
c Ps. 82: 6.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10: 34.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
1 Cor. 8: 6 (5-6)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Dont expect them to know the different betweet United Order Zion The Lords plan and One World Order Lucifer agenda.
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Well, considering the Mormon god is Lucifer, then equating them makes sense.
Well, considering the Mormon god is Lucifer, then equating them makes sense.~ reaganaut
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Only one thing wrong with your reply reaganaut
the opposition persuades a people NOT to do good
Most LDS I know strive to do good!
...but the devil will persuade anti LDS to lie and tell falsehoods because “the end justifies the means”
Satan can appear as an angel of light and can perform good works and even miracles!!
Would you like me to post some Biblical verses for you?
The devil’s job is to lead people or keep people from a saving relationship with the Jesus of the Bible. The LDS church does that real well.
Who knows, maybe the LDS church will be the front for the anti-Christ.
Athiests strive to do good as well, that doesn’t make them saved or right with God.
Drinking coffee within the state of Utah is persecution to a mormon..
It certainly is a sin.
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