[xone]

THAT (the bit about him being a pagan) was flawed interpretation

In light of infant baptism, it isn't flawed. If Catholics hadn't started infant baptism until later, it is reasonable to assume for a person not acquainted with that timeline and only cognizant of the current that a person not yet baptized in that period to be an unbeliever. So Ambrose became baptized to a bishop in a week. As an adult, what was he before he was baptized if not pagan? Was he saved prior to baptism? How so?

[Cronos]

All historical documents state that Ambrose was raised in a Christian family and was Christian not pagan. If you read “he was baptised as an adult” and assume that that means he was a pagan until an adult, that is flawed, personal interpretation, sola scriptura, sola interpretura. Just like the flawed personal interpretation of the bible

[Cronos]

So, the question to wmfights is -- if you assume that even though the fACTs say that Ambrose was born into a Christian family and was known as a Christian, despite this, he was baptised as an adult was a pagan until baptised, do you beleive that Baptists (as inferred by your statement) are pagans until baptised?

Lutherans,Orthodox, Catholics, practice infant baptism because they believe that God mandates it. In the special section on infant baptism in his Large Catechism Luther argues that infant baptism is God-pleasing because persons so baptized were reborn and sanctified by the Holy Spirit -- and he was correct on that

Ireneus speaks not only of children but even of infants being "born again to God", The Apostolic Tradition, attributed to Hippolytus of Rome (died 235), describes how to perform the ceremony of baptism; it states that children were baptised first, and if any of them could not answer for themselves, their parents or someone else from their family was to answer for them

From at least the third century onward Christians baptized infants as standard practice, although some preferred to postpone baptism until late in life, so as to ensure forgiveness for all their preceding sins -- and this was the common reason until the days of St. Augustine and St.Ambrose

From New Advent's encyclopedia

The bishops of the province, dreading the inevitable tumults of a popular election, begged the Emperor Valentinian to appoint a successor by imperial edict; he, however, decided that the election must take place in the usual way. It devolved upon Ambrose, therefore, to maintain order in the city at this perilous juncture. Proceeding to the basilica in which the disunited clergy and people were assembled, he began a conciliatory discourse in the interest of peace and moderation, but was interrupted by a voice (according to Paulinus, the voice of an infant) crying, "Ambrose, Bishop". The cry was instantly repeated by the entire assembly, and Ambrose, to his surprise and dismay, was unanimously pronounced elected. Quite apart from any supernatural intervention, he was the only logical candidate, known to the Catholics as a firm believer in the Nicene Creed, unobnoxious to the Arians, as one who had kept aloof from all theological controversies. The only difficulty was that of forcing the bewildered consular to accept an office for which his previous training nowise fitted him. Strange to say, like so many other believers of that age, from a misguided reverence for the sanctity of baptism, he was still only a catechumen, and by a wise provision of the canons ineligible to the episcopate. That he was sincere in his repugnance to accepting the responsibilities of the sacred office, those only have doubted who have judged a great man by the standard of their own pettiness. Were Ambrose the worldly-minded, ambitious, and scheming individual they choose to paint him, he would have surely sought advancement in the career that lay wide open before him as a man of acknowledged ability and noble blood. It is difficult to believe that he resorted to the questionable expedients mentioned by his biographer as practised by him with a view to undermining his reputation with the populace. At any rate his efforts were unsuccessful. Valentinian, who was proud that his favourable opinion of Ambrose had been so fully ratified by the voice of clergy and people, confirmed the election and pronounced severe penalties against all who should abet him in his attempt to conceal himself. The Saint finally acquiesced, received baptism at the hands of a Catholic bishop, and eight day later, 7 December 374, the day on which East and West annually honour his memory, after the necessary preliminary degrees was consecrated bishop.

Now, if you have complete information, you can understand the facts. However, if you use flawed, incomplete individual sola interpretura information, then you come up with the flawed assumption that wmfights made which was "Ambrose was a pagan before he got baptised".