[Quix]

This is the part I don’t get — why would you associate the Mother of God with UFO phenomena in any way shape or form? I really don’t understand this, dear brother in Christ.

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I outlined that above . . . don’t recall the post # . . . let me try again . . .

1. I accepted the Vatican construction on Fatima events and phenomena for probably 4+ decades of my 63 years—mostly on faith and without much more than cursory examination into the whole thing.

2. WHEN I became aware that there was extensive research back to the original testimonies etc. as well as added interviews with survivors . . . I had to prayerfully re-evaluate.

3. From that, it was very straightforward.

4. ALL the significant events of Fatima were demonstrated and documented to be RATHER STANDARD UFO SORTS OF PHENOMENA. This was easy for me to evaluate because I’ve read many hundreds—probably thousands of such case studies.

5. to wit:

A) The UFO craft—which it clearly was—by very reliable testimonies—behaved exactly like many such craft behaved. Even the “sun dancing in the sky” was clearly the large craft in a very brilliant light mode blocking out the sun and moving about.

B) Even the drying of the ground from being just a bit earlier quite rainsoaked and wet—was, again, a typical UFO phenomena.

C) The personage purported to be Mary, perhaps claiming to be Mary, . . . reports differed . . . was quite typical of UFO personages claiming to be a variety of personages.

D) The multiple events and their sequencing were also quite typical of UFO phenomena.

E) The predictions were fairly typical UFO type personage predictions with a special Marian twist.

F) The effects of the craft and events on the minds and emotions of the watchers were all quite standard UFO event effects.

G) The effects on the environment in addition to the dried ground were all typical, standard UFO event and craft effects.

H) The sound and light phenomena were all quite typical UFO sound and light phenomena.

I) Picking 3 sisters and giving them a prophetic mission—with some secrecy and some overtness was again, quite typical of UFO events and phenomena.

I’ll stop there.

Now—I have, for the 2nd time, outlined specifics answering your question. Neither you nor any other Roman Catholic et al has with like patience responded to such points.

Perhaps you will be able to bother indulging me, this time.

[stfassisi]

2. WHEN I became aware that there was extensive research .....I) Picking 3 sisters and giving them a prophetic mission

Pretty lousy extensive research dear brother,considering the FACT that they were NOT 3 sisters.The three children were Lúcia Santos and her cousins, siblings Jacinta and Francisco Marto.

[betty boop]

WHEN I became aware that there was extensive research back to the original testimonies etc. as well as added interviews with survivors . . . I had to prayerfully re-evaluate.

On whose research did you rely? In what way did you find it reliable?

I'm very sorry to have uttered the words, “. . . then you [Quix] must be spiritually dead ....” for obviously they have caused you great distress. I was out of line to say what I did. There is no basis for the remark. I guess I was just feeling a little frustrated at that point.... about our seeming lack of a common language....

Perhaps you and I could both agree to take a page out of our dearest sister in Christ Alamo-Girl's book — her metaphor of the gemstones. You and I are different stones, and each of us reflects the "color" characteristic of the refraction-of-light properties particular to the type of stone we "represent." The truly important thing is that the light source refracted through each of us is One Light. THAT is what we must recognize.

Or so it seems to me, dear brother.

[Cronos]

All of your statements are based on the assumption that there ARE ETs and that they do not wish to normally communicate with us (TAke me to your leader) but play games.