Posted on 03/14/2010 12:14:46 PM PDT by NYer
Thanks, I’ll look for the DeWohl book...
Does it help that St. Paul calls the body of any Christian a “Temple of the Holy Spirit”?
Or, when Mary visits her cousin Elizabeth, according to Luke, “And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, ...” Mary, of course, has already been visited by and filled with the Holy Spirit.
This is just what occurs to me immediately from the Bible. I’m sure a lot more could be made of it.
Paul calling believers temples of Holy Spirit
is an indictment
AGAINST
all the Marian excesses vs a support of them.
It is a declaration that all believers are equal before The Cross and before God in such regards.
NO special stature or status for Mary inherent there, at all.
The author is now a Roman Catholic..."Mills, a convert from the Episcopal Church..."
The only thing Protestants discover about Mary is that she was a simple Jewish girl blessed by God to carry the Christ child to term.
Beyond that, Jesus tells us if we are looking for His mother and brothers and sisters we must look to His many followers who are His true family.
Mariology is pagan. It is the most obvious error of the church in Rome. And Rome will have to account for every person it leads into idolatry.
AMEN!
Quix, Doesn’t make sense to me.
Not an indictment. Otherwise, you could not claim to be a charismatic and enflamed with the gifts, fruits and charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Scripture tells us there is only "one God and one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus."
“for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.”
—Luke 1:48
Nevertheless, Christ as God censured them most fiercely for layering on top of God's commandments commandments of men . . . and engineering excuses thereby to render God's law and will of no effect.
RELIGION does that.
The tedious rationales for a lot of the Marian stuff
SOUNDS logical to a point, particularly when one puts one’s self as best as one can within the frame of reference and skin of a Roman Catholic et al.
However, building such enormous sky-scrapers of EXTRABIBLICAL MARIAN STUFF [to put it politely] on top of the
Biblical toothpick ‘foundation’ of “Mary full of Grace . . . “
is horrific.
From Mary ‘temple of God’ we end up by incremental evolutionary steps to
“6 - ‘As Mother of the Word Incarnate, Mary was elevated to a certain equality with the Heavenly Father.’”
ni•hil ob•stat (n h l b stät , -st t , n -)
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
WITH
RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR
--John Ferraro's TEN . . . MEDITATIONS . . . OF THE ROSARY
That level of UNMITIGATED IDOLATROUS BLASPHEMY is screamingly outrageous, to me. I have difficulty understanding how even any Roman Catholic et al/Vatican associate who puts God first would fail to see it similarly.
No.
As Scripture declares . . .
OPEN REBUKE IS BETTER THAN SECRET LOVE.
INDEED.
MUCH AGREE.
Sad realities.
Have said repeatedly . . .
I only write for those for whom Holy Spirit enlivens my poor words redemptively in their minds, hearts, spirits, lives.
Others are encouraged to trash them.
Ahhhh the other tootpick foundation for umpteen skyscrapers of idolatrous, blasphemous Marian excesses.
Huge edifices teetering on a toothpick or even on two toothpicks are horrifically spiritually hazardous.
** only write for those for whom Holy Spirit enlivens my poor words redemptively in their minds, hearts, spirits, lives.**
This isn’t making sense to me. This is a public forum. When you write on it, it is open for any and all to read.
Why would anyone ever want to trash prayers?
God doesn’t.
Or are you talking about opinions?
Are you saying that I am not free to respond to you?
Let me try again . . .
I understood your post that I was replying to
to delcare that you did not understand my writings.
And there was a line about my being Charismatic etc. which I wasn’t quite sure what you were trying to say.
My thoughts on reading your post was, again, that
I’m NOT one size fits all.
I am NOT surprised that not everyone understands my poor words.
[though I am surprised that you do not understand more than you seem to assert that you do.]
I think it’s quite reasonable that my poor words are destined to enliven, enlighten, encourage, edify . . . exhort . . . those ONLY FOR WHOM GOD’S HOLY SPIRIT opens their understanding thereto—gives them eyes to see and ears to hear those particular combinations of poor words.
I have no . . . animosity . . . toward those for whom my poor words are too mystifying . . . no animosity for their trashing what they do not understand . . . as worthless to them.
Perhaps I was too oblique in asserting my welcome to such folks to trash said poor words that were of no use to them.
Is that any clearer?
EVERYONE HEREON
with posting privileges!
is free to respond to me.
And quite welcome.
Some have doggedly and energetically earned the ‘honor’ of being on my ignore or my mostly ignore list, however. That merely means I decline to or mostly decline to respond to their responses.
You are not on either list.
It’s not a toothpick. It’s the Bible.
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