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To: Tennessee Nana; Texan Tory; Logophile
BTW Joey Smith was all liquered up...They had been drinking ...Joey Smith might have been shooting wildly all over the room...Easy to shoot your own brother when you have a snoot full...

The Mormon author I cited earlier about the mysterious back wound, George W. Givens, wrote in the same book:

A most persistent story in Mormon history is that the soon-to-be-attacked prisoners in Carthage Jail sent out for a bottle of wine. When John Taylor heard an apologist report that it was taken as a sacrament, he said, 'It was no such thing; our spirits were generally dull and heavy, and it was sent to revive us.' A lesser-known fact is that Joseph had earlier adjudicated the case of some brethren who had been brought before him for drinking whiskey. He concluded by saying 'no evil had been done' and even gave the men some money to 'replenish the bottle to stimulate them in the fatigues of their sleepless journey.' The interpretation of the Word of Wisdom advice seemed to vary over time." (500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, pp. 45-46)

Hmmm...TWO references by Lds "prophets" describing alcohol NOT as the depressant it is, but as a stimulant. (So much for Mormons trying to tout how their "prophets" know all about these "healthful" issues!!!)

And TN, you make a point worth considering: How much of the wine was drunk by their leader? (No doubt, the other three men in the room would have deferred to Joseph having as much as he wanted)

64 posted on 03/14/2010 9:31:09 AM PDT by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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To: Colofornian
The Mormon author ...

HMMmm...

 
Maybe they wuz jus' durty and needed a BATH!!??
 

 
 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 89
Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.
 
1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.
 
  1 A aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—
  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—
  3 Given for a principle with apromise, adapted to the capacity of the bweak and the weakest of all csaints, who are or can be called saints.
  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of bconspiring men in the last days, I have cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—
  5 That inasmuch as any man adrinketh bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.
  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.
  7 And, again, astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
  8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—
  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with aprudence and bthanksgiving.
  12 Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used csparingly;
  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or bfamine.
  14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
  15 And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
  16 All grain is good for the afood of man; as also the bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ashall receive bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
  19 And shall afind bwisdom and great ctreasures of dknowledge, even hidden treasures;
  20 And shall arun and not be bweary, and shall walk and not faint.
  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the adestroying angel shall bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

78 posted on 03/14/2010 12:41:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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