Posted on 03/12/2010 7:02:37 AM PST by Colofornian
Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men, Elder Glenn L. Pace of the Seventy told students and faculty during the campus devotional in the Marriott Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 9.
Reflecting on the love he felt from his mother, sister, wife and daughters, Elder Pace spoke of the positive influence women have had on his life.
Speaking specifically about a time when his daughter fell asleep in his arms, Elder Pace noted the comfort it must have brought his daughter to be held by her father. He realized afterward that even greater was the peace and comfort she brought to him.
Looking to the Savior as an example, Elder Pace spoke of the love and respect He bestowed upon women.
"As we read about these associations, our focus is generally on what He teaches them and the love and understanding He gives them," Elder Pace said. "Have you ever considered the possibility that these women provided immense comfort to His burdened soul? It is my belief that He needed them as He journeyed toward living a perfect life in order that He could provide the ultimate sacrifice."
Just as the Savior needed righteous women, so do men today in purifying and sanctification in their lives.
Sharing excerpts from the story of the creation found in the book of Abraham, Elder Pace told of how the earth was created — before Eve — where Adam had been placed in the Garden of Eden. In the garden, Adam was enjoying a utopia in physical surroundings as well as open communication with God. Still, it was not complete without Eve.
"I believe the Father's statement 'It is not good that the man should be alone' (Genesis 2:18) had a much more profound meaning than the obvious biological implications," he said. "It also went further than providing Adam with company. Adam's ability to obtain the purification necessary to get back into the presence of God was dependent upon his continuous association with Eve."
In order for men and women to obtain the highest degree of celestial glory, there is need to be married, Elder Porter said.
"There is a limit to our spiritual development as long as we are single. There is a spiritual development which can only be obtained when a man and a woman join their incomplete selves into a complete couple," he said. "Just as conception requires the physical union of male and female, perfection requires the union of the very souls of male and female."
Although single men and women can accomplish great things on their own, they are incomplete until united intellectually, emotionally, physically and most important, spiritually, he said.
"The world we live in has gone awry with its focus on the physical part of the male and female relationship. If there is too much focus on the physical, the vital areas of intellectual, emotional and spiritual union are not being placed in an environment where they can flourish and grow."
Elder Pace spoke of the obsession the current society has on "making love," rather than developing a complete relationship that enables "expressing love." Because melding divine natures is a necessary element in bringing about perfection, Elder Pace said, individuals must guard against any deterioration of those natures.
"If the world keeps chipping away at the divine nature of women, it is probable that our relationships in marriage will not bring about the sanctification necessary for exaltation or, at a minimum, the process will be delayed," he said.
Referring to the phrase, "men have the priesthood and women have been given the blessing of procreation," Elder Pace spoke of the importance of each role in a relationship, and the ability couples have to complement one another in their eternal roles.
"It is the marriage ceremony in the temple where husband and wife receive the power to perfect their relationship and, thereby, obtain their exaltation."
As individuals work together to become a whole, as the Lord has commanded, they work together to become a combination of complementary capacities and characteristics.
"Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and you look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny."
I know...
There was another who tried to denigrate my person. In his case he just simply made a total fool of himself by trying to claim I was a paid clergyman to post on FR. I let him out enough rope to hang himself with - because I was impressed that the quality of my counter points was hard to refute - he even asked me to come to the dark side (sorry, no cookies). So paranoid was that he thought my profile page was all made up. LOL.
But I wore the boots, humped through the woods, bag always packed for war in the unsteady Cold War era, watched as the berlin wall fell and stood ready on a moments instant to be ordered to Iraq for Desert Storm - at a time we were expecting our last child, one I may not have been able to be there for delivery - or even alive.
I gave and sacrificed the best years of my life in service to America. No snotty nosed canuck is going to even begin to touch that
Ohhhhhhh. He is CUTE! But he’s a basement cat, isn’t he?
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I like that.
cute cat - Hope its feelings were hurt being associated with in any way eddie watson.
cute cat - Hope its feelings were hurt being associated with in any way eddie watson.
You know, Godzilla, you really need to stop this distortion. I’ve repeatedly addressed your arguments. Claiming I’ve avoided them is dishonest. I know, I know, the usual players here will side with you but the posting history shows otherwise.
YOU, not me, distorted Mormonism’s view on women. YOU, not me, ignores points. Did you address my pointing out the obvious that you’re confusing authority with superiority? No you didn’t.
I’ve spent hours and hours of my extremely valuable time replying to you and the other anti-Mormons on this forum this past week. I really have better things to do than engage in religious debates - I discontinued writing Mormon apologetics for the precise reason that I simply do NOT care any more. I get dragged in on this forum because I simply cannot tolerate the constant lying and misrepresentation you and the others do against my faith. I know such demonization is the first step towards justification of genocide and if not confronted, bad things will eventually happen all over again just because of religious intolerance.
So now, using the “IF” qualifier is invalid, just because your feelings were hurt? Baloney. Reading into my jab to infer it was a condemnation of your “alleged” military service? How did that happen?
Also, why are you frothing at the mouth? You constantly engage in belittling me and my fellow Mormons, but when your credibility is questioned; oh! How dare he!
Come to think of it, are you really a military veteran or just one of those phonies who were against the war that were paraded before the media? After all, you’re expecting me and everyone else to believe you’re a vet. Well, how would we know you’re telling the truth? Anyone can claim to be anything here.
It really is quite simple. STOP LYING and MISREPRESENTING my faith. I do not do it to your faith; don’t do it to mine.
My interests are elsewhere. So take your alleged righteous indignation, pretend your red herring gives you a great moral victory, and get on with your life.
Lastly, I know my writing style 12 years ago was atrocious - I make no apologies for whatever I wrote in my 20s. Bye boyo.
see the white patch? 99% Basement cat, 1% Ceiling cat.
And he is such the love, but just not all there.
If this is how you do analysis, no wonder you’re no longer in the military.
Dishonorable discharge, eh?
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Edward, I’m a veteran...
An HONORABLY DICHARGED veteran...
and as you said this disgusting thing to a fellow veteran of mine, you also said it to me...
It reminds me of the 2008 primary...
FReepers were posting that Williard Mitt Romney was a two time draft dodger and that nobody in his family had ever served in the US military....
Romney had FIVE grown eligible sons and they hadnt served...
Romney himself had sat out Vietnam in comfort living in a mansion in Paris and driving a Citroen while better men (No REAL men) were living and fighting and dying for our country in ietnam...
Romney had spoken against the military at earlier times and now he was claiming he wanted to go all the time (Then why didnt he ??? HE WAS DRAFTED...)
When asked about his FIVE sons and why they were not in Iraq, Romney made everyone sick to their stomach by boasting that his sons were serving America by helping to get him elected...
The MittWittTwitts AKA RomneyBots called the FReepers names and were especially vicious to veterans in the threads...
We were accused of “stolen valor” among ather things...
I was one of the veterans that got that label...
Just what is it about the draft dodger abortion pusher Romney that causes people to call REAL veterans who did serve our country names ...
Is it to lessen the dishonor of Romney...
You want dishonor ???
There it is ...in Romney...
WOW, the more you talk the more I’m convinced you are an alter ego of another FReeper and you just keep on a shoveling that hole deeper and deeper...just the way he does/did....I hope the powers that be investigate this.
“I’ve spent hours and hours of my extremely valuable time replying to you and the other anti-Mormons on this forum this past week.”
I’m sorry. I didn’t realize just how valuable your time is Edward - you know, more than anyone elses’ here.
Maybe you could post a PayPal link where we could pay you to reply to our posts? That might defray some of your out of pocket time costs, eh?
“Come to think of it, are you really a military veteran or just one of those phonies who were against the war that were paraded before the media? “
No, no disparagement of Godzilla’s military service in your posts at all!
Edward, perhaps you think too highly of yourself?
Yes thank you for your service, sir...
(I was a lowly NCO)
:)
Eddie...
You said...
“If this is how you do analysis, no wonder you’re no longer in the military.
Dishonorable discharge, eh?”
This is low, Real Low. I know you never served, I did...
This is tantamount to calling him a criminal. Words have meaning.
Box turtle, profile bump to you my Inman br’er!
“I wanted to serve in the military and I regret it now”. Even the LDS draft dodgers from ‘Nam.
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One of them wants to be Commander in Chief
AWWWWWWWWWWWWW
:)
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