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Chief exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth says Devil is in the Vatican
Times ^ | 3/10/10 | Richard Owen

Posted on 03/10/2010 10:17:50 AM PST by Wontsubmit

Sex abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church are proof that that "the Devil is at work inside the Vatican", according to the Holy See's chief exorcist.

Father Gabriele Amorth, 85, who has been the Vatican's chief exorcist for 25 years and says he has dealt with 70,000 cases of demonic possession, said that the consequences of satanic infiltration included power struggles at the Vatican as well as "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus, and bishops who are linked to the Demon".

He added: "When one speaks of 'the smoke of Satan' [a phrase coined by Pope Paul VI in 1972] in the holy rooms, it is all true – including these latest stories of violence and paedophilia."

He claimed that another example of satanic behaviour was the Vatican "cover-up" over the deaths in 1998 of Alois Estermann, the then commander of the Swiss Guard, his wife and Corporal Cedric Tornay, a Swiss Guard, who were all found shot dead. "They covered up everything immediately," he said. "Here one sees the rot".

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholic; devil; exorcism; satan; spiritualwarfare; vatican
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Tick, tick, tick ... Bushes fault.
1 posted on 03/10/2010 10:17:50 AM PST by Wontsubmit
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To: Wontsubmit

Can he please pay the WH a visit?


2 posted on 03/10/2010 10:22:47 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: Wontsubmit
Sorry Father....but your a little off with your sense of direction....the devil is

HERE


3 posted on 03/10/2010 10:23:27 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Wontsubmit

At least we know where he is now. That frees everyone else up. LOL.


4 posted on 03/10/2010 10:24:25 AM PST by Zack Attack
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

5 posted on 03/10/2010 10:25:06 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Wontsubmit

If Cardinal Bernard Law, former Cardinal of Boston, guilty of aiding homosexual pedophile priests is who he is referring to , I would saw he is spot on.


6 posted on 03/10/2010 10:25:17 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Wontsubmit

l8r


7 posted on 03/10/2010 10:26:31 AM PST by Grunthor (Everyone hates the U.S. at least until they need liberated.)
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To: Wontsubmit

Wow, that was a really interesting article.


8 posted on 03/10/2010 10:28:01 AM PST by brwnsuga (Black and Free!!!)
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To: Quix
""Chief exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth says Devil is in the Vatican"

Gee, I guess he should know, eh?
9 posted on 03/10/2010 10:29:31 AM PST by shibumi ("..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Wontsubmit
Well, since part of Satan's work is, let us say, new business-oriented, it makes perfect sense that he would target the Vatican and other locales where those doing God's work are located.

It's not like he's needed in Hollywood, on Capital Hill, or in the Obama WH. His agents there seem to be proceeding quite nicely without his close personal supervision.

10 posted on 03/10/2010 10:29:50 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: brwnsuga

Thank you. I thought you’d like it.


11 posted on 03/10/2010 10:37:14 AM PST by Wontsubmit
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To: brwnsuga

Thank you. I thought you’d like it.


12 posted on 03/10/2010 10:37:39 AM PST by Wontsubmit
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To: Wontsubmit
Well, since part of Satan's work is, let us say, new business-oriented, it makes perfect sense that he would target the Vatican and other locales where those doing God's work are located.

It's not like he's needed in Hollywood, on Capital Hill, or in the Obama WH. His agents there seem to be proceeding quite nicely without his close personal supervision.

13 posted on 03/10/2010 10:38:14 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: Wontsubmit
Satanic behavior in the Catholic Church, absolutely!

Priests that do not know Jesus as their Savior and Lord, absolutely!

Before I get slammed for Catholic bashing, this is also true in all the main line denominations. But since the story is about the Catholic Church....

The politics of electing a pope on the 3rd ballot etc. The idea that the Pope himself does not come out and say that he is just a man, and this business that the Pope is infallible, nothing in my Bible about that.

The fact that they will not come out and stand up for the unborn in a real way. Some/few Bishops have, but we have never heard this from the Pope. Someone will tell me the Pope has, but he really has not, none of the Popes have had the courage to risk losing members and losing financially at the collection plate.

The Catholic Church should stand strong for the unborn to the point that they say, you are not welcome in the Church if you vote Democrat, or for candidates that support abortion/homosexuality. Catholics that go home to a Clinton or Obama sign on their front yards, should be dealt with.

The gay sex scandals of the Church most certainly are from demonic activities IMHO.

The idea of someone becoming a Priest or a Minister without first asking Jesus into their life is not a good thing.

I know many wonderful Catholic Priests, that are filled with the Spirit, but I think overall this is the exception to the rule.

I remember one time the Pope came to North America, he addressed “young Catholics” I always felt what a lost opportunity that he did not instead address “young Christians”

14 posted on 03/10/2010 10:38:37 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: Wontsubmit

how can you have a catholic bishop who doesn’t believe in Jesus?


15 posted on 03/10/2010 10:40:54 AM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Wontsubmit
Satanic behavior in the Catholic Church, absolutely!

Priests that do not know Jesus as their Savior and Lord, absolutely!

Before I get slammed for Catholic bashing, this is also true in all the main line denominations. But since the story is about the Catholic Church....

The politics of electing a pope on the 3rd ballot etc. The idea that the Pope himself does not come out and say that he is just a man, and this business that the Pope is infallible, nothing in my Bible about that.

The fact that they will not come out and stand up for the unborn in a real way. Some/few Bishops have, but we have never heard this from the Pope. Someone will tell me the Pope has, but he really has not, none of the Popes have had the courage to risk losing members and losing financially at the collection plate.

The Catholic Church should stand strong for the unborn to the point that they say, you are not welcome in the Church if you vote Democrat, or for candidates that support abortion/homosexuality. Catholics that go home to a Clinton or Obama sign on their front yards, should be dealt with.

The gay sex scandals of the Church most certainly are from demonic activities IMHO.

The idea of someone becoming a Priest or a Minister without first asking Jesus into their life is not a good thing.

I know many wonderful Catholic Priests, that are filled with the Spirit, but I think overall this is the exception to the rule.

I remember one time the Pope came to North America, he addressed “young Catholics” I always felt what a lost opportunity that he did not instead address “young Christians”

16 posted on 03/10/2010 10:41:56 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: Wontsubmit
Satanic behavior in the Catholic Church, absolutely!

Priests that do not know Jesus as their Savior and Lord, absolutely!

Before I get slammed for Catholic bashing, this is also true in all the main line denominations. But since the story is about the Catholic Church....

The politics of electing a pope on the 3rd ballot etc. The idea that the Pope himself does not come out and say that he is just a man, and this business that the Pope is infallible, nothing in my Bible about that.

The fact that they will not come out and stand up for the unborn in a real way. Some/few Bishops have, but we have never heard this from the Pope. Someone will tell me the Pope has, but he really has not, none of the Popes have had the courage to risk losing members and losing financially at the collection plate.

The Catholic Church should stand strong for the unborn to the point that they say, you are not welcome in the Church if you vote Democrat, or for candidates that support abortion/homosexuality. Catholics that go home to a Clinton or Obama sign on their front yards, should be dealt with.

The gay sex scandals of the Church most certainly are from demonic activities IMHO.

The idea of someone becoming a Priest or a Minister without first asking Jesus into their life is not a good thing.

I know many wonderful Catholic Priests, that are filled with the Spirit, but I think overall this is the exception to the rule.

I remember one time the Pope came to North America, he addressed “young Catholics” I always felt what a lost opportunity that he did not instead address “young Christians”

17 posted on 03/10/2010 10:43:07 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: All

He’s absolutely right.
Satan is in every church in the world (theoretically speaking).


18 posted on 03/10/2010 10:43:21 AM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Wontsubmit

You should read the comments at the end of the story. I guess in Britian religion is dead. Satan does exist, I think, but so many have been duped into believing he does not. Too bad for them.


19 posted on 03/10/2010 10:43:58 AM PST by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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To: shibumi

This is a fascinating look at Exorcism today, written by this same Fr. Amorth and is worth the read:

http://www.amazon.com/Exorcist-Tells-His-Story/dp/0898707102


20 posted on 03/10/2010 10:44:45 AM PST by RedDogzRule
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