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"I tell you that the evidence for the life, the death, and the resurrection of Christ is better authenticated than most of the facts of ancient history."

~ E. M. Blaiklock, Professor of Classics, Aukland University

1 posted on 02/28/2010 2:11:37 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The proof for the early church was that this was a recent event with multiple eye witnesses, and no dead body but encounters with the risen Christ. But the most powerful evidence was empirical, outright miracles as well effects that testify to a specific cause.

That is, those who, with a broken heart and contrite spirit (Ps. 34:18) turn in their hearts to Christ from sin, and cast all their faith in Him (who died for their sins and rose again) realize effects that correspond to the Object of their faith, and are contingent upon them.

I would like someone to do their own research. Go to a growing evangelical, fundamental type church (maybe like a Calvary Chapel), and ask the Pastor for a list of people you can interview. Find out what their hearts and lives were like before and after their conversion, and the manner in which it came about. Then interview those who knew them in their “B.C” days and after. What they can find is effects that overall cannot simply be attributed to psychological causes, etc. Along that line, a good documentary is: “A Venture in Faith” (History of Calvary Chapel)http://www.ccsaintpaul.org/ministries/servantsclass/A_VENTURE_IN_FAITH.wmv

Others:

http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/Amazing/ (various amazing testimonies)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3682855866783766146 (Glimpse of Eternity with Ian McCormack: stung by box jellyfish)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4136610474021109864 (Dr Maurice Rawlings - NDE – Interviews: To Hell and Back; including an atheist)

READ
http://www.christian-faith.com/truestories.html
http://www.truthsaves.org/testimony/
http://www.miraclebook.org/reviews.html
http://www.shelovesgod.com/library/testimonies.cfm
http://www.doolittleraider.com/raiders/deshazer.htm

http://breadsite.org/topics.htm
http://www.shelovesgod.com/library/testimonies.cfm


2 posted on 02/28/2010 2:38:02 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

You can get some hint as to the manner in which the resurrection was brought about from Julian Jayne’s “Origin of Consciousness”. There are no violations of physical or mathematical laws in the Bible. If you want violations of physical, mathematical, and probabilistic laws, you need to be talking to the Darwinists and evolosers; they specialize in that sort of thing.


3 posted on 02/28/2010 2:39:25 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I work with scientific study of the Shroud of Turin. “Proof” of the resurrection is right there for all to see.....even if most don’t yet realize it.

We’re working on that....


4 posted on 02/28/2010 3:04:17 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Just a heads up to readers who might be passing by, the writer does not mention the Shroud of Turin as one of his evidences. There are plenty of archaeological discoveries and historical records outside of the Bible attesting to the accuracy of the New Testament.


6 posted on 02/28/2010 8:37:23 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege (When I survey the wondrous cross...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
In 1917 no less than 70,000 people in Spain saw the Sun "dance" (change colors, shoot flames, swirl wildly, even fall towards earth and radiate increased heat)...except the cameras recorded nothing of the sort.

Here is a picture of the mass of people "witnessing" the "dancing" and "falling" Sun.

What people "see" and what really happened is often two different things. The conviction that something happened seems to grow with the crowds, and is often referred to as "mass hysteria."

This 'miracle' of the Sun was actually predicted by the "appearance" of Mary (the Mother of Jesus) to three little children in Portugal in a town called Fatima. And Mary "told" one of them, Lucia, that the Sun would do something (I guess as a sign of "authentication").

Of course, when interviewed many people, it turns out, witnessed something very different from those next to them...and some even said they saw nothing at all! All photographs of the Sun on that day show none of the "miraculous" signs predicted and duly "witnessed" not by 500 like those in Jerusalem, but 70,000, who only thought they saw something.

Using eyewitness accounts is obviously unreliable.

The author also uses a banal argument about the apostles for basically dying for their faith as a "proof" that they "saw" the risen Christ. In Mat 28:17 it says that at the end of his 40 days mingling with the disciples some still doubted Jesus.

But just because some people are ready to lay down their lives form someone is no proof that that someone is what they believe he is! Look at what Jim Jones did! He managed to convince a whole bunch of people that dying for their faith was a good thing! Look at all his followers who died for Jim Jones.

being martyred for something you believe in is no proof that what you believe in is true or real.

Sorry. Your author may be a good guy, but his arguments are not.

7 posted on 03/01/2010 2:00:19 AM PST by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
If people won't believe Jesus when He tells us He was resurrected, then no amount of "proof" will convince them either.

Some people are going to find out and believe that Jesus is Who He says He is and that His Word is absolutely, 100% correct and without error after they're dead and it's too late for the belief to help them.

So, so sad.

8 posted on 03/01/2010 2:35:17 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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