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To: P-Marlowe

It isn’t just you. It seems to me that ‘hyper-Calvinism’ is just Calvinism logically carried out.

In my letter resigning membership from my church (SBC), I asked the pastor if our missions T-shirts should read, “Jesus loves you!” or “If God has chosen you, join us!”

He agrees with the former, but wants Calvinism taught as our theology. I find it inconsistent, but maybe “doctrine is superfluous, the bible is superfluous, Faith is superfluous and effectively everything is meaningless except God’s decision to elect you to salvation or to let you ignorantly or otherwise die in your sins” - according to Calvinism.


455 posted on 03/05/2010 6:10:42 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers; P-Marlowe
I find it inconsistent, but maybe “doctrine is superfluous, the bible is superfluous, Faith is superfluous and effectively everything is meaningless except God’s decision to elect you to salvation or to let you ignorantly or otherwise die in your sins” - according to Calvinism

Maybe it has to do with the Calvinists conviction that everything is according to God's will, including our sins, lest he not be God? Are you willing to say that everything is not according to God's will and perfect plan?

459 posted on 03/05/2010 6:27:13 AM PST by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: Mr Rogers
In my letter resigning membership from my church (SBC), I asked the pastor if our missions T-shirts should read, “Jesus loves you!” or “If God has chosen you, join us!”

I remember back in the days of the old Cal/Arm wars being told that it is bad theology to sing the song "Jesus Loves the Little Chidren" because Jesus very well may HATE some of those little children just as he Hated Esau.

That kind of thing sticks to your memory banks.

464 posted on 03/05/2010 6:51:53 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Mr Rogers; P-Marlowe; kosta50
It seems to me that ‘hyper-Calvinism’ is just Calvinism logically carried out.

Just to be clear, we consider hyper-Calvinism to be anti-Calvinism since it violates scripture right and left. Logical implications can be fine (such as double predestination), but not when they contradict God's word. For example, a hyper-Calvinist might say that witnessing is a waste of time, but we know that witnessing is commanded by God, therefore, it cannot be a waste of time.

582 posted on 03/05/2010 10:37:05 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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