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To: maine-iac7; reaganaut; colorcountry; Godzilla; svcw; Elsie; Vendome; SZonian; MHGinTN
But were these lands and their people unknown to God? Were not these people also God's children?

If so, would He not also communicate to them?

In THAT case, where are the "books" in Sioux, Cherokee, Hope, Navajo, telling of the visit to the "new world"?

Or, are those batches of plates yet undiscovered, waiting for an even newer "prophet" to discover them?

There ARE native legends that can be followed, but I am unaware of any that speak of "On Easter Sunday, 3 April 1836, the Savior, Moses, Elias, and Elijah will appear in succession in the Kirtland Temple Window Rock, AZ and restore the priesthood keys required for the dispensation of the fulness of times. (See D&C 110.)

28 posted on 02/23/2010 10:55:23 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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RE; #28...”Hope should be Hopi”...guess I’m just all excited about the “hope and change” we are seeing.../sarc


33 posted on 02/23/2010 11:10:23 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 110
 
Visions manifested to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Oliver Cowdery in the temple at Kirtland, Ohio, April 3, 1836. HC 2: 435–436. The occasion was that of a Sabbath day meeting. The Prophet prefaces his record of the manifestations with these words: “In the afternoon, I assisted the other Presidents in distributing the Lord’s Supper to the Church, receiving it from the Twelve, whose privilege it was to officiate at the sacred desk this day. After having performed this service to my brethren, I retired to the pulpit, the veils being dropped, and bowed myself, with Oliver Cowdery, in solemn and silent prayer. After rising from prayer, the following vision was opened to both of us.”
 
1–10, The Lord Jehovah appears in glory and accepts the Kirtland Temple as his house; 11–12, Moses and Elias each appear and commit their keys and dispensations; 13–16, Elijah returns and commits the keys of his dispensation as promised by Malachi.
 
  1 The aveil was taken from our minds, and the beyes of our cunderstanding were opened.
  2 We asaw the Lord bstanding upon the breastwork of the pulpit, before us; and under his feet was a paved work of pure cgold, in color like amber.
  3 His aeyes were as a flame of fire; the hair of his head was white like the pure snow; his bcountenance shone above the brightness of the sun; and his cvoice was as the sound of the rushing of great waters, even the voice of dJehovah, saying:
  4 I am the afirst and the last; I am he who bliveth, I am he who was slain; I am your cadvocate with the Father.
  5 Behold, your sins are aforgiven you; you are clean before me; therefore, lift up your heads and brejoice.
  6 Let the hearts of your brethren rejoice, and let the hearts of all my people rejoice, who have, with their might, abuilt this house to my name.
  7 For behold, I have aaccepted this bhouse, and my name shall be here; and I will cmanifest myself to my people in mercy in this house.
  8 Yea, I will aappear unto my servants, and speak unto them with mine own voice, if my people will keep my commandments, and do not bpollute this choly house.
  9 Yea the hearts of thousands and tens of thousands shall greatly rejoice in consequence of the ablessings which shall be poured out, and the bendowment with which my servants have been endowed in this house.
  10 And the fame of this house shall spread to foreign lands; and this is the beginning of the blessing which shall be apoured out upon the heads of my people. Even so. Amen.
  11 After this avision closed, the heavens were again bopened unto us; and cMoses appeared before us, and committed unto us the dkeys of the egathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the fnorth.
  12 After this, aElias appeared, and committed the bdispensation of the cgospel of Abraham, saying that in us and our seed all dgenerations after us should be eblessed.
  13 After this vision had closed, another great and glorious avision burst upon us; for bElijah the prophet, who was taken to heaven without tasting death, stood before us, and said:
  14 Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi—testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come—
  15 To aturn the bhearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse—
  16 Therefore, the akeys of this bdispensation are committed into your hands; and by this ye may know that the great and dreadful cday of the Lord is near, even at the doors.
 
 

60 posted on 02/23/2010 11:57:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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One would think the Cherokee being the most advanced Civilized Tribe and having a grasp of the written word and the only native people of North America to have a written language, we would find this story.

However, as a former Okie and having all the tribes as customers and friends and seeing their stories there is no such story anywhere, at all.

Go ahead and look on the walls of their Councils or lodges. You won’t find anything even remotely LDS related.

The Pawnee have no story.
http://www.pawneenation.org/

The Osage have none.
http://www.osagetribe.com/index.aspx

The Cherokee, strangely are not describing anything that could be remotely construed to LDS anywhere though they have a very significant genealogy department so one may trace relatives or even become members of the tribe under certain criteria. http://www.cherokee.org/

Go ahead, look up the history of the other tribes(Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, Seminole and Ponca’s) and you will not find one iota or even spec of evidence concerning the LDS history and their people roaming the land from 2,000 BC to present day.

Were it so, where are they or where were they? Can we exhume some bodies for examination and DNA?

Do any current LDS members have unassailable proof of their progenitors here in the the Americas that would even remotely be seen as possible genetic inheritors of LDS blood or Lamenites or even Nephites?

I know well the history of each tribe and was very proud to meet many fine people such as Martha Moore, who was the 1st Miss Indian USA and I can assure you there was no history of White man or LDS types in their time line.

Or even Wilma Mankiller, the former chief of the Cherokee tribe and the President of the Pawnee Tribe, whose name escapes me at this time.

Come on revelators, where is this evidence?


64 posted on 02/23/2010 12:04:27 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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