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To: reaganaut

I was fully dunked “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Amen.” I’m a Mormon.


44 posted on 02/17/2010 5:28:58 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I’m a Mormon.
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So you say...

But the Jesus of the Christian Bible wants you come out of mormonism and to be born again and be a Christian...


51 posted on 02/17/2010 6:50:43 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy

How’s your heart?


52 posted on 02/17/2010 6:59:39 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

That does not make you a Christian. Baptism is an outward symbol of an innward change. It is NOT baptism into a denomination.

And theologically the LDS differ greatly from Christians which is why the LDS baptism IS NOT RECOGNIZED BY ANY CHRISTIAN CHURCH, even though they will accept other Christian baptisms.

IOW, the words used does not make it a valid baptism.


53 posted on 02/17/2010 7:15:36 PM PST by reaganaut (- "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Saundra Duffy

I was fully dunked
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And you’ll have the privilege of being dead dunked by some ignorant teenager in the name of mormonism after you die...

But you atill wont be a Christian if thats what you are relying on...

At 8 I was born again into the kingdom of God and became a Christian..

At 10 I was baptized in the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues and God talked to me and showed me things as I walked back and forth to school and at other times...

At 14 I was sprinkled with water, and at 30 I was fully submerged in water...

But there was nothing added to me that I did not already have at 10...

Whether spinkled or submerged, water baptisism is merely an outward display to acknowledge what has already happened and changed inside the heart...

Water baptism cannot save anyone...

You can get what you call “dunked” till the cows come home...


57 posted on 02/17/2010 7:29:46 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy; reaganaut; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian; colorcountry; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion
I was fully dunked “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Amen.” I’m a Mormon.

There's a little more to your baptism that you report here. This is the WHOLE story regarding mormon baptism.

LDS.org

Baptism in the Lord's Way

The Savior revealed the true method of baptism to the Prophet Joseph Smith, making clear that the ordinance must be performed by one having priesthood authority and that it must be done by immersion:

"The person who is called of God and has authority from Jesus Christ to baptize, shall go down into the water with the person who has presented himself or herself for baptism, and shall say, calling him or her by name: Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

"Then shall he immerse him or her in the water, and come forth again out of the water" (D&C 20:73–74).

Immersion is symbolic of the death of a person's sinful life and the rebirth into a spiritual life, dedicated to the service of God and His children. It is also symbolic of death and resurrection. (See Romans 6:3–6.)

The Baptismal Covenant

Those who are baptized enter into a covenant with God to take upon themselves the name of Jesus Christ, keep His commandments, and serve Him to the end (see Mosiah 18:8–10; D&C 20:37). Church members renew this covenant each time they partake of the sacrament (see D&C 20:77, 79).

Those who keep the covenants they made at baptism are blessed by the Lord for their faithfulness. Some of the blessings include the constant companionship of the Holy Ghost, the remission of sins, and the privilege of being spiritually reborn. If they continue faithfully, they are promised eternal life (see 2 Nephi 31:19–20).

A covenant is a sacred agreement between God and a person or group of people. God sets specific conditions, and He promises to bless us as we obey those conditions. When we choose not to keep covenants, we cannot receive the blessings, and in some instances we suffer a penalty as a consequence of our disobedience.

Official description of "covenant" from LDS.org

Where better to reveal the mormon claims for the "authority of the priesthood".

It is true that some few in that day did not want their ministers to claim special sacramental authority, but most people longed for priesthood sanctioned by God and were frustrated as to where they might go to find such. 9 In that spirit the revelatory return of priesthood authority through Joseph Smith should have eased centuries of anguish in those who felt what the famed Charles Wesley had the courage to say. Breaking ecclesiastically with his more famous brother John over the latter’s decision to ordain without authority to do so, Charles wrote with a smile:

How easily are bishops made
By man or woman’s whim:
Wesley his hands on Coke hath laid,
But who laid hands on him?
10

In responding to that challenging question, we in the restored Church of Jesus Christ can trace the priesthood line of authority exercised by the newest deacon in the ward, the bishop who presides over him, and the prophet who presides over all of us. That line goes back in an unbroken chain to angelic ministers who came from the Son of God Himself, bearing this incomparable gift from heaven.

The essential function of the priesthood in linking time and eternity was made explicit by the Savior when He formed His Church during His mortal ministry. To His senior Apostle Peter He said, “I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” 4 Six days later He took Peter, James, and John to a mountaintop where He was transfigured in glory before them. Then prophets from earlier dispensations, including at least Moses and Elijah, 5 appeared in glory also and conferred the various keys and powers that each held.

Unfortunately those Apostles were soon killed or otherwise taken from the earth, and their priesthood keys were taken with them, resulting in more than 1,400 years of priesthood privation and absence of divine authority among the children of men. But part of the modern miracle and marvelous history we celebrate tonight is the return of those same heavenly messengers in our day and the restoration of those same powers they held for the blessing of all mankind.

In May of 1829 while translating the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith came across a reference to baptism. He discussed the matter with his scribe, Oliver Cowdery, and the two earnestly supplicated the Lord regarding the matter. Oliver wrote: “Our souls were drawn out in mighty prayer, to know how we might obtain the blessings of baptism and of the Holy Spirit. … We diligently sought for … the authority of the holy priesthood, and the power to administer in the same. 6

In response to that “mighty prayer,” John the Baptist came, restoring the keys and powers of the Aaronic Priesthood, which our young men in this audience tonight have been given. A few weeks later Peter, James, and John returned to restore the keys and powers of the Melchizedek Priesthood, including the keys of the apostleship. Then when a temple had been built to which other heavenly messengers might come, there unfolded on April 3, 1836, a modern-day equivalent of that earlier Mount of Transfiguration, part of something President Hinckley once called the “Kirtland cascade” of revelation in which the Savior Himself, plus Moses, Elijah, and Elias, appeared in glory to the Prophet Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery and conferred keys and powers from their respective dispensations upon these men. That visit was then concluded with this thunderous declaration, “Therefore, the keys of this dispensation are committed into your hands.” 7

Link at LDS.org

121 posted on 02/18/2010 7:20:11 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: Saundra Duffy; reaganaut

I was fully dunked “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Amen.” I’m a Mormon.
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No, actually that would make you a Roman Catholic...

that format originated with the Roman Catholics centuries before Joey Smith was born...


269 posted on 02/18/2010 8:36:30 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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