Since you mentioned ...St. John Cantius, Chicago, is an extraordinary church. If you're in the area, and have the time, you will be so pleased to attend a mass there, whether Tridentine, or Novus Ordo. The NO mass has the inclusion of several rubrics from the Tridentine, and it is not your usual NO mass. At both masses, there are no altar girls, no Eucharistic ministers, no sign of peace, no bringing up of the collection, no Communion by hand. There *is* Gregorian chant/special choirs at a couple of the masses, and incense at a couple others, plenty of altar servers (of all ages), confession at *all* Sunday masses, before, after and during (and there are lines), and plenty of respect, respect, respect. The Canton Regulars, themselves, by and large are very slim (they either aren't fed or fast a lot:)), wear cassocks, and are joyful and helpful and walk about the church sometimes hurriedly to have it sparkling clean and beautiful for Our Lord.