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To: BenKenobi

“The scriptures you refer to were never intended to become a prayer to Mary.”

According to whom? You? Why should we trust your interpretation on the matter? The church fathers interpreted these phrases in the same manner, to acknowledge that Mary was blessed among all women, by Christ and the father for His purposes.

“The church and the saints are pretty clearly Biblically defined AND well before the RCC came into existence too.”

When did the RCC come into existence?

“BTW vicar means substitute, do you really think anyone can possibly be a substitute for Jesus?”

Vicar is simply a representative. Just as the centurion said, I command my servant and it is done. This is how it is with Christ and his servents. They are the vicars of Christ in that he works through them to accomplish his works here on earth.

“The Bible does not change but the RCC as well as most every mainline christian denomination changes with the culture. Is that not how some liberal sects suceeded in deciding it’s OK to be homosexual?”

And how has the RCC changed? Which is your denomination, if I may inquire which has not changed at all?

“You either read, revere and follow the Bible yourself, or you blindly let others do it for you. And consequently allow yourselves to be misled on any/all doctrines.”

Yet, the scripture you hold in your hands today was written by St. Jerome, who is a Catholic saint. How can you elevate the book and ignore the Church which commissioned the work?

You are aware that the bible did not exist in the time of Christ. How then can we rely on the bible by itself?


71 posted on 02/15/2010 2:40:08 PM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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To: BenKenobi

The RCC stuff concerning Mary (whatever is not scriptural) was accepted and approved by the RCC around 1850AD.

My denomination - don’t have one. If you read my homepage you’ll get all the background info I care to share. I’ll also add - no matter which church/denomination you attend, this will not save you. See John 3:16 or Romans 10:9-15


110 posted on 02/16/2010 11:37:03 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: BenKenobi

The RCC stuff concerning Mary (whatever is not scriptural) was accepted and approved by the RCC around 1850AD.

My denomination - don’t have one. If you read my homepage you’ll get all the background info I care to share. I’ll also add - no matter which church/denomination you attend, this will not save you. See John 3:16 or Romans 10:9-15


111 posted on 02/16/2010 11:37:31 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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