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Nuts and Bolts - By Tim Staples: Mary Worshippers Need Not Apply
Envoy ^ | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII

The Scenario:

Ever have one of those days when you’re feeling full of energy and vigor? I mean, you’re feeling just obnoxiously happy? Well, this is one of those days.

Driving home from work, you switch on the radio to see what’s happening, and you tune in to a local Protestant radio station just in time to hear a preacher speaking against various Catholic doctrines concerning Mary. The show is called Pastor Bob’s Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: “Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us?’ (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isn’t it sad, my brothers and sisters?”

Pastor Bob goes on to say: “Jesus dealt with these Mary worshippers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, ‘A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked!” But He said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”’”

On a normal day you would probably just listen, take a few mental notes and drive on. But not this time. You’re feeling a little bit too saucy. You take the first exit you see and head for a phone. This is just one more reason why you need to buy that cell phone you’ve been talking about getting.

Step One:

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History
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To: Petronski; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
From our perspective,

The lies about the Roman Catholic/Vatican associated congregations and edifice

are MUCH MORE on y'all's side of the discourse.

However, your obtuse, obsfucating, denial flaunting absurd assertions pretending we are talking about a different organization are very helpful in highlighting other absurdities about the organization you are a part of.

961 posted on 02/19/2010 9:52:38 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

Shock.

I agree with you fairly wholesale about that.


962 posted on 02/19/2010 9:53:41 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
However, your obtuse, obsfucating, denial flaunting absurd assertions pretending we are talking about a different organization are very helpful in highlighting other absurdities about the organization you are a part of.

I'm not pretending you're talking about a different organization. I'm stating quite clearly that (a) what you say does not describe the Catholic Church and (b) you do not purport to be describing the Catholic Church.

And I'm glad for it.

963 posted on 02/19/2010 9:55:44 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: John Leland 1789

Excellent post.


964 posted on 02/19/2010 10:02:31 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Petronski
Lying about the Catholic Church would not strike me as very honorable, in the least.

I feel the exact same way. Even if I truly believed that Jesus' mother was given too much importance in another church, I wouldn't dare have the guts to claim Jesus' mother was just another sinfull woman. Not honorable at all. Then to go on with lies and false witness should be scary, for someone who believes in the same God I do.

I don't believe in Buddha that doesn't give me the right to mock him or make stuff up for those who do. I don't know much about buddha, and don't care to know. I find it scary how so many new "Christian Churches" can just pop up promising salvation and are simply cultish, and I don't have a need to tell other Christians that they lack structure and authority. I would never claim ALL non-Catholics are cults.

That's why I don't get what motivates people to slander the Catholic faith, which is something that they are obviously unfamiliar with? Especially while claiming to be fellow Christians. It doesn't make sense at all.

965 posted on 02/19/2010 10:05:24 AM PST by mgist
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To: Petronski

I just described the Catholic Church.


966 posted on 02/19/2010 10:05:33 AM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Judith Anne

Judy,

Thank you for expressing your opinions.


967 posted on 02/19/2010 10:06:30 AM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Petronski

yes, dear. of course, dear...


968 posted on 02/19/2010 10:08:49 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Petronski

I’m curious, does the Jewish day Rishon have anything to do with the sun? Because everything I’ve read indicates that it simply means the “first day” and that phrase, interestingly enough, is used in all four Gospels to denote the day of our Lord’s Resurrection.


969 posted on 02/19/2010 10:08:54 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: the_conscience
Well, "invisible church of the elect" is an odd description of the Catholic Church, but many of your posts are quite odd too.

I'm just thankful your statement (That particular sect has used that same method for centuries although with more devasting effect in real life...) is not intended to describe the Catholic Church.

That's my real concern.

970 posted on 02/19/2010 10:09:18 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Marysecretary

I’m not your dear.

Your advances toward me are creepy and uninvited.

Kindly stop embarrassing yourself.


971 posted on 02/19/2010 10:10:10 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Whoops: “invisible universal church of the elect”

Just as odd as the incorrectly-quoted version I used above.


972 posted on 02/19/2010 10:11:20 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

“Well, “invisible church of the elect” is an odd description of the Catholic Church”

Not for someone who reads their Bible or has a passing knowledge of Augustinian teachings. I find that Romanists are usually the most ignorant of these things.


973 posted on 02/19/2010 10:13:19 AM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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To: Petronski; Marysecretary; the_conscience
Your advances toward me are creepy and uninvited.

Yes, they are. Just as "the_conscience" uses the familiar diminutive of my first name, as though we were friends, when we are both aware that is hardly the case. Creepy is the word.

974 posted on 02/19/2010 10:14:32 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

Perhaps he was inviting you to use a diminutive version of his screenname as well. Perhaps “the_con” is suitably ironic.


975 posted on 02/19/2010 10:16:13 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: the_conscience
I find that Romanists are usually the most ignorant of these things.

I've never met one.

I'm Catholic.

976 posted on 02/19/2010 10:16:52 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Any such invitation would be summarily refused.


977 posted on 02/19/2010 10:18:54 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Religion Moderator

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you step in simply because one side or the other was losing, I’ve only seen you step in when a person becomes hateful to the point that the thread will collapse into total chaos unless something is done.


978 posted on 02/19/2010 10:19:29 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Astute.


979 posted on 02/19/2010 10:20:51 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Petronski
Can the "invisible church of the elect" be seen from outer space? Is that why some believe that they have been abducted by aliens?


980 posted on 02/19/2010 10:23:43 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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