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Nuts and Bolts - By Tim Staples: Mary Worshippers Need Not Apply
Envoy ^ | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII

The Scenario:

Ever have one of those days when you’re feeling full of energy and vigor? I mean, you’re feeling just obnoxiously happy? Well, this is one of those days.

Driving home from work, you switch on the radio to see what’s happening, and you tune in to a local Protestant radio station just in time to hear a preacher speaking against various Catholic doctrines concerning Mary. The show is called Pastor Bob’s Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: “Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us?’ (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isn’t it sad, my brothers and sisters?”

Pastor Bob goes on to say: “Jesus dealt with these Mary worshippers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, ‘A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked!” But He said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”’”

On a normal day you would probably just listen, take a few mental notes and drive on. But not this time. You’re feeling a little bit too saucy. You take the first exit you see and head for a phone. This is just one more reason why you need to buy that cell phone you’ve been talking about getting.

Step One:

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: bvm; catholic; mariolatry; moapb; ourlady
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To: editor-surveyor
You equated it with Rape, the definition of which I’m sure you know.

The filth is purely your own.

If Mary had no right of refusal, then it would have been rape, just like the old fables of the Greek gods. Our Almight Father preserved her free from sin, but made a request, not a demand. Mary's assent to His Will was her own.

701 posted on 02/18/2010 4:19:11 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Petronski

I never said, “a four-year-old” cookie thief. I more had in mind a rather older cookie thief.

Well, you just don’t want to answer inconvenient questions sincerely asked, whether by one who is open minded or not, which makes you a poor apologist.


702 posted on 02/18/2010 4:20:20 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: Judith Anne
It's amazing to see how many of them think I'm on their witness stand, on cross-examination, ready for their big Perry Mason moment.

A tiny little trial right there in their head, and I have the audacity to refuse to submit.

703 posted on 02/18/2010 4:20:42 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Do you really not understand that we cannot receive salvation from anything but the sinless blood of Christ?"

I believe that only God knows who will be saved, or not. I believe that the road to heaven is not easy (at least for me). I believe that I need God with all my heart and soul. I believe that we are all sinners, and only by the Grace of God will we be saved. I believe that only God knows our hearts and has enough mercy to forgive us. I believe in the Trinity, the resurrection of Jesus. I believe that Mary prays for us, as a good mother would, in our spiritual journey. I believe that God loves us beyond our limited knowledge. I believe the devil tries to decieve us constantly. I believe that God has a purpose for everyone in this world. I believe that life and death are decisions that only God can make. I believe that we have have God given Free Will. I believe that we have to constantly search for His word and His will for us in our lives. I believe that Jesus founded our church and allowed subsequent churches. I believe that Jesus warned us of false prophets. I believe that the devil uses God's word to decieve people.

I believe pride is a barrier between men and God. I KNOW that for God, love is the most important of God's commandments.

704 posted on 02/18/2010 4:22:04 PM PST by mgist
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To: Belteshazzar
I never said, “a four-year-old” cookie thief.

Did I claim that you did?

I more had in mind a rather older cookie thief.

I could not imagine caring less.

Well, you just don’t want to answer inconvenient questions sincerely asked...

You've got to be kidding.

705 posted on 02/18/2010 4:22:06 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: wmfights

indeed...


706 posted on 02/18/2010 4:22:28 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Judith Anne
"If Mary had no right of refusal, then it would have been rape"

No, rape has a well defined meaning, and in every instance requires a physical penetration, and he knows that quite well. Please don't step down to his level, you're nothing like him.

707 posted on 02/18/2010 4:23:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Petronski

Cheeky of them. ;-D

Furthermore, I think it’s kind of *icky* that they seem to want to know every last detail about Mary, as though they were physicians, wanting to examine her to be sure she was a sinless virgin, and what God did to make her pregnant...actually, it’s prurient and sickening, when you think about it.


708 posted on 02/18/2010 4:24:37 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Belteshazzar
...which makes you a poor apologist.

Or are you more of the pretend college professor type? I didn't sign up for your course, I'm not going to take your final exam, and the idea of you grading me is laughable, in a pathetic sort of way.

But hey, I'm just a Catholic, so my role is just to apologize for that, right?

709 posted on 02/18/2010 4:25:15 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: editor-surveyor

lol, you got that right.


710 posted on 02/18/2010 4:26:11 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, rape has a well defined meaning, and in every instance requires a physical penetration, and he knows that quite well. Please don't step down to his level, you're nothing like him.

I am a woman, and I can assure you I know the meaning of rape. It is the possession and use of my body without my consent. Your insistence on physical penetration as part of the definition is disgusting to me.

711 posted on 02/18/2010 4:27:44 PM PST by Judith Anne
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To: RnMomof7; mgist
But one thing we do need to know is all the scriptures are all about Jesus, not Mary, He is to be the center of all of our worship..God will not share His glory with another

This is the point!

All this Marian heresy is doing is turning people from Jesus and having them bow down to statues of Mary. It is not based in Scripture. It does not glorify God. It is wrong!

712 posted on 02/18/2010 4:28:16 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: editor-surveyor

AMEN, AMEN!!!!!


713 posted on 02/18/2010 4:29:34 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Petronski

“But I am also giving Petronski the opportunity to demonstrate that Roman Catholic (yes, I know he will object to the “Roman” part) apologetics is something more than repetition of boilerplate statements, evasion of difficult questions, and condescendingly delivered but transparently impotent smack-downs.”

Petronski, you are such a good example - and prompt.

Far be it from any servant of Jesus Christ to consent to sit on a witness stand when the Faith is on trial.


714 posted on 02/18/2010 4:29:35 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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To: mgist

Your belief system appears to me as a shapeless cloud, having no relation to God’s stated path to salvation in his word.

Believing that “the Devil” uses God’s perfect word to deceive, you must be in a prison of confusion. His word says that “Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

You need to hear the word of God. You can do that by simply reading it aloud.


715 posted on 02/18/2010 4:30:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, rape has a well defined meaning...

It has many definitions, not just one.

...and in every instance requires a physical penetration...

Nope.

...and he knows that quite well.

Mind-reading is not permitted in the Religion forum.

716 posted on 02/18/2010 4:31:24 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Pretending?


718 posted on 02/18/2010 4:32:13 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Belteshazzar

You don’t have the jurisdiction.


719 posted on 02/18/2010 4:32:49 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Judith Anne

It is the definition.


720 posted on 02/18/2010 4:33:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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