Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII
The Scenario:
Ever have one of those days when you’re feeling full of energy and vigor? I mean, you’re feeling just obnoxiously happy? Well, this is one of those days.
Driving home from work, you switch on the radio to see what’s happening, and you tune in to a local Protestant radio station just in time to hear a preacher speaking against various Catholic doctrines concerning Mary. The show is called Pastor Bob’s Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: “Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us?’ (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isn’t it sad, my brothers and sisters?”
Pastor Bob goes on to say: “Jesus dealt with these Mary worshippers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, ‘A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked!” But He said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”’”
On a normal day you would probably just listen, take a few mental notes and drive on. But not this time. You’re feeling a little bit too saucy. You take the first exit you see and head for a phone. This is just one more reason why you need to buy that cell phone you’ve been talking about getting.
Step One:
(Excerpt) Read more at envoymagazine.com ...
Good grief, poor Mary
Now WHO here has said one word against liking Mary? That’s a falsehood. We respect her as Jesus’ mother. We do NOT feel she is co’redemtrix nor has any of the attributes many Catholics try to pin on her.
wonderful story
That's what the anti-Catholic bigots want you to believe.
But you HAD said something that agrees with the Catholic Church.
And just look at how angry that makes you.
...it is fair to assume that the Vatican is very aware of the long-running deification of Mary...
There is none.
No, I prove I ignore your interpretation of context, which is quite useless.
First born also assumes there were others that followed.
By reading the thread.
The Imprimatur simply does not mean what you imply it means. Neither does the Nihil Obstat.
Your misunderstanding of the Catholic Church seems to be well-nigh boundless.
“But you HAD said something that agrees with the Catholic Church.”
I hadn’t said anything about the Catholic Church in that post, and it was MY context, and you said that you ignored my interpreation of MY own context?
they use MOPIOS...magesterium’s own personal interpretation of scripture. They are NEVER wrong, ya know.
Simply not true, as has been explained to you.
Mary was kept sinless by the grace of God. She is human nonetheless.
But--as I pointed out--you said something that agrees with the Catholic Church.
yep, and Rev.12 is prophetic, not in the past, but most RC’s aren’t into end times prophecies.
If you can make the assumptions without words, then we can make the assumptions BY the words. Post #503.
God regardled Mary’s humility. And the Catholic Church regards her, not as God does (a sinner who also required a Substitutionary Saviour), but as a deified individual.
John, it would appear that we need to take up a collection for a guide dog for a number of folks.
amen. thank God for his wisdom.
You are correct of course:
If Mary was sinless then she didn’t need a Savior from sin. If she didn’t need that Savior, then she is not Human. It is just pure fiction that “God just kept her sinless.” If God had done that (which He didn’t), then you have the one who fulfilled Romans chapter 2 and could be saved by her own merits—she dind’t need Christ at all.
That is blatantly, fundamentally false. It is precisely contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church.
Your claim is either ignorant or intentionally deceitful.
Which breed would you prefer?
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