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Nuts and Bolts - By Tim Staples: Mary Worshippers Need Not Apply
Envoy ^ | Tim Staples

Posted on 02/15/2010 9:07:17 AM PST by GonzoII

The Scenario:

Ever have one of those days when you’re feeling full of energy and vigor? I mean, you’re feeling just obnoxiously happy? Well, this is one of those days.

Driving home from work, you switch on the radio to see what’s happening, and you tune in to a local Protestant radio station just in time to hear a preacher speaking against various Catholic doctrines concerning Mary. The show is called Pastor Bob’s Bible Hour. Pastor Bob proclaims: “Jesus knew Catholics would come along and begin to worship His mother and call her perpetual virgin and absurd things like that. But the Bible says: ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brethren James and Joseph and Simon and Judas? And are not all of His sisters with us?’ (Matt. 13:55-56a). And isn’t it sad, my brothers and sisters?”

Pastor Bob goes on to say: “Jesus dealt with these Mary worshippers in His day. In Luke 11:27-28, the Bible says, ‘A woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts that You sucked!” But He said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”’”

On a normal day you would probably just listen, take a few mental notes and drive on. But not this time. You’re feeling a little bit too saucy. You take the first exit you see and head for a phone. This is just one more reason why you need to buy that cell phone you’ve been talking about getting.

Step One:

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To: 1000 silverlings

It’s a MOOSELYMB type of

“RESPECT”

UTTER AND TOTAL 100% KOWTOWING SUBMISSION AND AGREEMENT is all that’s interpreted as respect.


1,161 posted on 02/19/2010 3:04:17 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

like in a heirarchy? a big heirarchy? a big Romish heirarchy?


1,162 posted on 02/19/2010 3:05:26 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

INDEED.


1,163 posted on 02/19/2010 3:06:41 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
lol, big gubmint good for you
1,164 posted on 02/19/2010 3:07:51 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I know where big gubment comes from and where it can go.


1,165 posted on 02/19/2010 3:11:02 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

astute. A pronoun and 2 hockey sticks.


1,166 posted on 02/19/2010 3:14:18 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I agree. Thanks.


1,167 posted on 02/19/2010 3:25:20 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Quix
Amen
1,168 posted on 02/19/2010 3:32:50 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wagglebee
U-2012>I do not believe in three gods nor three divine persons.

So then, who is God, the Father or the Son?

What role do you believe the Holy Spirit plays?

Why do you insist that there three persons or three gods ?

Why can you not believe the Holy Word of G-d.

All through the Holy Word there only ONE YHvH (over 7000 times)

In the Tanach YHvH is described as our Father.

When YHvH took on our physical form He is called our Brother.

Matthew 12:50 "For whoever does the will of My Father
who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother."
When ever He came to us as the breath of G-d He is called the Holy Spirit.

Psalm 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God,
And renew a steadfast spirit within me.

11 Do not cast me away from Your presence
And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me.

Isaiah 63:10 But they rebelled And grieved His Holy Spirit;
Therefore He turned Himself to become their enemy,
He fought against them.
11 Then His people remembered the days of old, of Moses.
Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherds
of His flock? Where is He who put His Holy Spirit in the midst of them,

Yah'shua tells us that the Father and He are ONE
John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
John 14:7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also;
from now on you know Him, and have seen Him."
John 14:9 Jesus said to him, ...., Philip?
He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father '?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
1,169 posted on 02/19/2010 3:37:38 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

YUP.


1,170 posted on 02/19/2010 3:42:20 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wmfights

THANKS for your kind affirmation.


1,171 posted on 02/19/2010 3:43:05 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Scripture speaks of Christ sitting at the Rt hand of The Father.

And that blasphemy against Him or the Father will be forgiven but not against Holy Spirit.


1,172 posted on 02/19/2010 3:44:25 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne
Please do not make this thread about me.

I haven't. I do, however, request that you withdraw that false accusation.

1,173 posted on 02/19/2010 3:51:47 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Quix

Are you now denying the existence of the Holy Trinity?


1,174 posted on 02/19/2010 3:55:44 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Quix
Scripture speaks of Christ sitting at the Rt hand of The Father.

And that blasphemy against Him or the Father will be forgiven but not against Holy Spirit.

All throughout the Tanach there are references
to YHvH' right arm or right hand.

How does a Human sit to right of a Spirit ?

Review Isaiah 63:7 - 63:14 paying particular
attention to verse 10

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
1,175 posted on 02/19/2010 3:58:16 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

How do you explain Jesus’ own words:

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” Matthew 28:19 KJV


1,176 posted on 02/19/2010 3:58:50 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Folks who’ve been to the Throne Room and come back to report . . . tell a different story than you seem to picture—or not picture.


1,177 posted on 02/19/2010 4:03:14 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: nanetteclaret
How do you explain Jesus’ own words:

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” Matthew 28:19 KJV

Excellent question.

In ~311 CE Eusebius (265-339) Bishop of Caesarea
In his _Proof of the Gospel_
in Book three chapter seven states

Go, and make disciples of all the nations in My Name, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you,” [[Matt. xxviii. 19.]]
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/eusebius_de_05_book3.htm

Apparently Matthew 28:19 was changed
after Eusebius wrote his Proof of the Gospel.

Eusebius's citation is the oldest citation of the verse.

Shabbat Shalom

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
1,178 posted on 02/19/2010 4:10:15 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Marysecretary
I doubt that, mgist. We were always taught that ourselves. On FR it’s because of remarks made by some of the Catholic posters that seem to put her above or on a par with her Son.

Actually if you go to a Catholic Mass, Blessed Mary isn't even mentioned unless she is mentioned in that Sunday's biblical sermon. We recite Psalsms, then New Testament, wish each other peace, and the accept the Eucharist.

The problem is that to us, she is considered the "New Eve", the "Mother of all Christians", the "Mother of Our Savior Jesus". How would you feel if someone said something negative agianst your mother?

I have been a Catholic since birth, and the Blessed Mother really never meant anything until I became a mother. I understood her to be my role model, she is the ideal Christian woman. You make accusations that are false and lacking in brotherly love.

Does "Honor Your Mother and Father", mean anything to you? We Catholics take for granted that other Christians understand brotherly love and the basic 10 commandments. To equate Jesus' mother with a meaningless Hindu goddess, is hurtfull.

I've said before, I am shocked by the so-called "Christian Churches" that promise salvation, and are simply cultish. That doesn't entitle me to call all non-Catholics cults. I assume you love our Savior, and other Christians. I give you the benefit of the doubt. Catholics deserve the same. We are not terrorists.

True Catholics, love our God, and for practical purposes I believe the Blessed Mother is an important role model for my daughters. Why wouldn't you respect that?

1,179 posted on 02/19/2010 4:10:36 PM PST by mgist
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To: Quix
Shabbat Shalom

1,180 posted on 02/19/2010 4:11:47 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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