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To: SZonian; rickomatic
OK, we don't have Amazing Grace in our hymnal, but we do have many that teach of grace.

Rock of Ages, no. 111


1. Rock of Ages, cleft for me,
Let me hide myself in thee;
Let the water and the blood,
From thy wounded side which flowed,
Be of sin the double cure,
Save from wrath and make me pure.

2. Not the labors of my hands
Can fill all thy law’s demands;
Could my zeal no respite know,
Could my tears forever flow,
All for sin could not atone;
Thou must save, and thou alone.

3. While I draw this fleeting breath,
When mine eyes shall close in death,
When I rise to worlds unknown
And behold thee on thy throne,
Rock of Ages, cleft for me,
Let me hide myself in thee.

I think this one explains our view on salvation and grace. Not the labors of my hands can fill all thy law’s demands; Thou must save, and thou alone. We teach that there are requirements in the law's demands, but those "works" will not fill ALL the law's demands. Only the grace of Christ gets me in to heaven. You explain it backwards from what we believe.

Because, apparently, in LDS doctrine, His grace is not sufficient.

No, in LDS doctrine, our works are not sufficient, only His grace is (but we still are required to do works).

20 posted on 02/12/2010 10:28:46 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: T. P. Pole; SZonian; rickomatic

Because, apparently, in LDS doctrine, His grace is not sufficient. [rick]

No, in LDS doctrine, our works are not sufficient, only His grace is (but we still are required to do works). [tadpole]\

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Hey tadpole, long time no see.

The thing is, by stating that “but we still are required to do works” is AUTOMATICALLY saying that Christ’s grace is not sufficient. It is either entirly grace (Christian doctrine) or it is works based.

Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.


22 posted on 02/12/2010 10:38:39 AM PST by reaganaut (It's futile to talk facts to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance)
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