Should politicians heed their prophet or pope?

Salt Lake Tribune ^ | Feb. 5, 2010 | Peggy Fletcher Stack

[BlueMoose]

What would you know? You never reply outside worthless smart ass answers anyway.

Now that is personal

[ejonesie22]

Try not to act shocked.

[Elsie]

who are you too judge

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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home.

And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was.

I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.”

I then said to my mother,

“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

 

[Elsie]

The fact is to trust in the Lord the cream will always rise to the top the the dross will sink to the bottem!

All TRUE Christians knows that DROSS does NOT sink!

[Elsie]

That is based on the principle that two wrongs do not make a right.

But 3 lefts do! ;^)

[Elsie]

 

I don’t get the whole P thing. It is verboten in the physical but expected in the celestial kingdom?

 

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Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?

 

Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?

 

Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.

 

Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!

 

Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!

 

 

Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"

 

 

Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!

 

 

 

 

 

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...and the rest is HISTORY...

 

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THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI

CHAPTER 2

 

  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.

 

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Or even HERE:

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 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

 

 

1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.

 

 

 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.

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Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!

 

Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!

 

 

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 132

 

  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 

 

  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to ^aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.

  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, ^areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.

  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been ^afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.

  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and ^acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be ^bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.

  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ^ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of ^beternal lives in the eternal worlds.

  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid ^aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to ^brejoice.

[colorcountry]

HuH?

[Elsie]

You don’t the difference between top and bottom nor the difference between cream and dross!

HEY!!!

Can you PLEASE not get so PERSONAL???

[Elsie]

I am laughing with you! LOL

While WE are laughing AT you!

[Elsie]

One can discern one being a scoundrel...

I guess, from this statement you just made, that YOU cannot see that Joseph Smith was a scoundrel.

Too bad...

[Elsie]

 

And those words cant be from the God of the Bible...

he doesnt talk that way to me..

 

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

 

 

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

 

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

 

 1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in ^aproclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the ^bmysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

  2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be ^amade known unto you.

  3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

  4 Wherefore, ^alabor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

  5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him ^aunderstand and ^breceive also;

  6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more ^aabundantly, even power.

  7 Wherefore, ^aconfound your ^benemies; call upon them to ^cmeet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their ^dshame shall be made manifest.

  8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their ^astrong reasons against the Lord.

  9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no ^aweapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

  10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be ^aconfounded in mine own due time.

  11 Wherefore, ^akeep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

 

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[Elsie]

I was never unkind to another unless they continue to provoke with hearsays, taking things out of context, that was umteen times clarified yet many pretended not to know!

So much for 'turn the other cheek"!

And...

Do not repay evil for evil...

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SOME in these threads seem to be a bit hypocritical!

[Elsie]

I was never unkind to another unless they continue to provoke with hearsays, taking things out of context, that was umteen times clarified yet many pretended not to know!

Like what was UNTRUE about...

[Elsie]

During the halftime ‘report’ I said, “Get on with the halftime SHOW, for we just SAW what you guys are jabbering about!”

A few minutes into the ‘show’ I said, “Uh; let’s go back to the report.”

[Elsie]

Thank you I should have put a ? mark

Like THIS --> "SOMEone on this thread is an idiot?"

[Elsie]

...taking things out of context ...

"I have found for myself that MORMONism is UNTRUE."

[Elsie]

And fairly factual.

[Tennessee Nana]

Hey that means...

I’m good...

so what are the mormons beefin about ???

[Tennessee Nana]

You can try to turn my words which is your specialty anyways!
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[greyfoxx39]

You are going to eat those word someday and be a mighty embarrassed person for all the ignorant things you have said in meanness soon!

Are you really willing to risk Hell for something (the LDS church) that is SO EASILY disprovable???

It makes me wonder if a whole lot of mormons are looking forward to "exaltation" so that they can be in the presence of God, or whether they are looking forward to being up there in the "celestial kingdom" so they can look down on all the sinners and say "I told you so"!