Of course they’re born that way.
I have nothing against men, but there is nothing about a man that arouses me. In fact, masculinity is an instant turn-off for me, even “manly” traits in women can have a negative effect in that department.
I don’t believe it could arouse a man unless he is wired for it.
Just my opinion.
Sometimes it’s wiring, sometimes a choice.
NO
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I’m thinking “yes”. Most anyway. There may be some that like to appear gay
for the “fun” of it.
I think the cells have gone squirrelly. The difference between the sexes are very delicate. IMHO
Is it complicated? Of course, but that only means it takes more than a cursory look at the evidence to understand the issues.
No,but you are born with SATAN tappin’ on your shoulder .
Does it matter? You can be born with a disposition toward alcoholism. Does that mean it is morally correct and “being true to your identity” to drink your brain away and desert your family?
That said, I think homosexuality comes from a combination of genetic dispositions and environmental factors. There are probably genetic factors that make you more sensitive to certain things in your environment.
For those who would like for political reasons to believe that homosexuality is inherited, the burden of proof is on them. If you want to assert that some swans are not-white, it is up to you to produce a not-white swan.
If you want to assert that homosexuals "are born that way," fine: produce the gene structures and triggering mechanisms that make that happen.
Yes, I believe they are born gay.
Yes, I also believe they are born gay. It is a birth defect in the brain.
I object to engaging the lobby on behalf of homoeroticism on these terms.
I think a reasonable case can be made that all of us are born with tendencies that predispose us toward certain temptations and with them certain sins.
The problem with allowing the debate to be frame in terms of “is it inborn?” is that it is debating the wrong issue. The question is whether yielding to this disposition results in good or evil behavior.
If I were born with a predisposition to anger, that fact would not make it either moral or morally neutral for me to yield to that predisposition and commit murder nor even perpetually rail against my neighbors and acquaintances.
If I were born with a predisposition to acquisitiveness, that fact would not make it moral or morally neutral for me to pilfer from my employer or turn to brigandry.
No more, were I born with a predisposition toward buggering other men would that make buggery either moral or morally neutral.
All I have to go by is a lifetime of observations of the various gay people I’ve met over the years. I see “gay” as just another fetish. Are people *born* to be into bondage or leather or have a particular attraction to feet? It’s a personality trait, not a condition, IMHO.
People are born with a brain that’s wired up different from every other brain. Everyone is different, across a wide spectrum of personality ranges. Then all manner of complex interactions with life proceed to build and reinforce personality as brains develop.
I wouldn’t say that people “choose” to have a bondage fetish. It certainly does nothing for me. That just happens to be what works for them at that time in their lives. But I don’t think they were necessarily “born” with that either. We are born with a starter-kit personality I suppose... but then we spend our whole lives developing it, in ways that are too subtle and complex to ever map out.
People don’t need to “choose” to be gay either to end up that way, and I don’t think it has much to do with their starter-kit. The whole concept of a “gay gene” seems to me to be an oxymoron. How would such a gene last in the gene pool after millions of years of evolution? It’s a gene that tends *away* from selection rather than toward it. Doesn’t make sense.
But it doesn’t need to be a “choice” at a discreet moment in time either. It’s a personality trait— a fetish— just like any other attraction or enthusiasm in life. Some people live to golf, and some live to hunt or fish. Some people like sailboats and some people like motorboats. Did they “choose” to have those enthusiasms? Not exactly. But were they born that way? Probably not.
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All I have to go by is a lifetime of observations of the various gay people I’ve met over the years. I see “gay” as just another fetish. Are people *born* to be into bondage or leather or have a particular attraction to feet? It’s a personality trait, not a condition, IMHO.
People are born with a brain that’s wired up different from every other brain. Everyone is different, across a wide spectrum of personality ranges. Then all manner of complex interactions with life proceed to build and reinforce personality as brains develop.
I wouldn’t say that people “choose” to have a bondage fetish. It certainly does nothing for me. That just happens to be what works for them at that time in their lives. But I don’t think they were necessarily “born” with that either. We are born with a starter-kit personality I suppose... but then we spend our whole lives developing it, in ways that are too subtle and complex to ever map out.
People don’t need to “choose” to be gay either to end up that way, and I don’t think it has much to do with their starter-kit. The whole concept of a “gay gene” seems to me to be an oxymoron. How would such a gene last in the gene pool after millions of years of evolution? It’s a gene that tends *away* from selection rather than toward it. Doesn’t make sense.
But it doesn’t need to be a “choice” at a discreet moment in time either. It’s a personality trait— a fetish— just like any other attraction or enthusiasm in life. Some people live to golf, and some live to hunt or fish. Some people like sailboats and some people like motorboats. Did they “choose” to have those enthusiasms? Not exactly. But were they born that way? Probably not.