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To: RGirard

All I have to go by is a lifetime of observations of the various gay people I’ve met over the years. I see “gay” as just another fetish. Are people *born* to be into bondage or leather or have a particular attraction to feet? It’s a personality trait, not a condition, IMHO.

People are born with a brain that’s wired up different from every other brain. Everyone is different, across a wide spectrum of personality ranges. Then all manner of complex interactions with life proceed to build and reinforce personality as brains develop.

I wouldn’t say that people “choose” to have a bondage fetish. It certainly does nothing for me. That just happens to be what works for them at that time in their lives. But I don’t think they were necessarily “born” with that either. We are born with a starter-kit personality I suppose... but then we spend our whole lives developing it, in ways that are too subtle and complex to ever map out.

People don’t need to “choose” to be gay either to end up that way, and I don’t think it has much to do with their starter-kit. The whole concept of a “gay gene” seems to me to be an oxymoron. How would such a gene last in the gene pool after millions of years of evolution? It’s a gene that tends *away* from selection rather than toward it. Doesn’t make sense.

But it doesn’t need to be a “choice” at a discreet moment in time either. It’s a personality trait— a fetish— just like any other attraction or enthusiasm in life. Some people live to golf, and some live to hunt or fish. Some people like sailboats and some people like motorboats. Did they “choose” to have those enthusiasms? Not exactly. But were they born that way? Probably not.


59 posted on 02/03/2010 7:02:48 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Whoops. Doggone it. I thought my connection dropped and ended up posting twice. Sorry...


62 posted on 02/03/2010 7:04:45 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
The whole concept of a “gay gene” seems to me to be an oxymoron. How would such a gene last in the gene pool after millions of years of evolution? It’s a gene that tends *away* from selection rather than toward it. Doesn’t make sense.

If there were a gay gene and so far science hasn't found it, it could be recessive.

Having said that, I know of no credible scientists who think they will ever find a gay gene. Some scientists who happen to be gay are included in that list. Those same credible scientists admit environment is the largest factor in determining our sexuality... yes, even the gay scientists.

64 posted on 02/03/2010 7:12:12 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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