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1 posted on 01/28/2010 9:32:42 AM PST by Mad Dawg
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To: Mad Dawg
1 Corinitians 11:23-29 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread, and giving thanks, broke and said: Take and eat: This is my body, which shall be delivered for you. This do for the commemoration of me. In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood. This do, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me. For as often as you shall eat this bread and drink the chalice, you shall show the death of the Lord, until he come. Therefore, whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread and drink of the chalice. For he that eats and drinks unworthily eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.

1 Corinthians was written in about AD 56 and is prior to all four Gospels. The Eucharistic Liturgy precedes the Gospel.

2 posted on 01/28/2010 9:47:07 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: Mad Dawg

I always appreciate Hahn’s clarity. Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 01/28/2010 9:54:48 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Mad Dawg
No wonder St. Paul says in 1st Corinthians 5, "Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed for us." Therefore, what? Therefore we don't have any more sacrificial offerings or ceremonies or feasts and so on to celebrate because all those ceremonies are outdated and done with? No. He says, "Christ, our Passover, has been sacrificed; therefore, let us keep the feast."

Generally pretty good article. This is spot on.

However, most churches today don't actually observe the feast of Passover and Unleavened bread as Jesus Christ himself did in the pages of the bible. It's also evident that since Christ partook of the wine and bread on Passover and that Passover is a yearly observance that he intended his followers to do the same.

Paul said "Let us keep the feast". The feast was Passover and Unleavened Bread.

[Lev 23:4 KJV] - These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
[Lev 23:5 KJV] - In the fourteenth [day] of the first month at even [is] the LORD'S passover.
[Lev 23:6 KJV] - And on the fifteenth day of the same month [is] the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.

These are the Lord Jesus Christ's days.

5 posted on 01/28/2010 11:40:51 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Mad Dawg

What an appropriate post for the feast of St. Thomas Aquinas, in view of his great Eucharistic hymns! :)


7 posted on 01/28/2010 12:01:10 PM PST by maryz
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To: Mad Dawg
Well, He insists on the fact that His life is not being taken away from Him. He is laying it down. Now in the trial, in the passion, it's being taken away; but in the Upper Room, prior to all of that, Jesus lays it down. He says, "This is my body. This cup is the blood of the New Covenant."

Jesus laid down His life at the trial as well, it was never and could never be taken from Him.

8 posted on 01/28/2010 12:22:54 PM PST by xone
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To: Mad Dawg

For a fantastic look at the Liturgy of the Mass and the Holy Eucharist — read Hahn’s book “The Lamb’s Supper.”


12 posted on 01/28/2010 6:05:47 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mad Dawg
we have reason to believe that this sacrifice of the New Covenant Passover begun in the Upper Room and consummated on Calvary and ultimately as 1st Corinthians 5 suggests continued and celebrated as a climactic communion on the altars of the Church around the world when we receive the Eucharist in Communion

13 posted on 01/28/2010 6:23:05 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Mad Dawg
The Institution of the Eucharist in Scripture
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Two: Channels of Grace: The Eucharist
EWTN - October 29 - 8PM - Fr. Antoine and the Eucharist
The Institution of the Eucharist in Scripture
A Few Texts From Saint Cyril of Jerusalem on the Eucharist
The Early Christians Believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist
A Chinese Girl-True Story That Inspired Bishop Fulton Sheen- Eucharist Adoration (Catholic Caucus)
Doubting Thomases(Eucharist); the Pitfalls of Folly(Catholic Caucus)
Rainbow sash-wearers prohibited from receiving [the Eucharist at Cathedral of St. Paul]

The significance of Holy Thursday (institution of the Eucharist and priesthood)
Beginning Catholic: Receiving the Lord in Holy Communion [Ecumenical]
The Catechism of St. Thomas Aquinas THE HOLY EUCHARIST
Beginning Catholic: The Eucharist: In the Presence of the Lord Himself [Ecumenical}
Faithful Invited to Follow Pope, Adore Eucharist [Catholic Caucus]
Christmas and the Eucharist(Catholic/Orthodox Caucus)
Eucharist kneeling request sparks controversy [Catholic Caucus]
Eucharist vs. the Word (which is more important in the Catholic Church)
Bill Donohue Addresses Eucharist Desecration(VIDEO)
Catholic League Takes Lead Against 'YouTube' Desecrations of the Eucharist

Christ the Miracle Worker in the Eucharist(Catholic Caucus)
Imitating Christ in the Eucharist(Catholic Caucus)
The Meal of Melchizedek
Institution of the Real Presence(Catholic/Orthodox Caucus)
One More Time: It's All About the Eucharist
Bread -- Big B or Little b? [The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist]
The Eucharist: The Sacred Adventure of Life
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Eucharistic Mystery [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Eucharist (Real Presence) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Catholic Doctrine of the Real PresenceCatholic Caucus)

Pope Benedict at 80: Blowing on the coals of faith
A series of reflections from St. Peter Julian Eymard Blessed Sacrament(Catholic Caucus)
Prayer Before the Blessed Sacrament
This is My Body, This is My Blood
THE HOLY EUCHARIST IS THE WHOLE CHRIST
Truth or Consequences
Gift Of Life, Gift Eternal: The Most Holy Eucharist and the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass
The Eucharistic Mystery Calls For Our Response
Custody of Holy Land Concludes Year of Eucharist - In Capernaum, Site of a Key Discourse
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Grace of the Eucharist is secret to holy priests, says Pope
Worthy Is the Lamb?
The Disposition of Priests [Valid Mass, Valid Holy Eucharist?]
Sign of Reverence (when receiving the Holy Eucharist
Eucharistic Miracles and Faith in Christ's Presence
THE HOLY EUCHARIST: NOURISHMENT TO FINISH OUR COURSE
LITANY OF REPARATION TO OUR LORD IN THE BLESSED SACRAMENT
Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament
True Food and True Drink
The Discipline of the Eucharist Holy See Releases Redemptionis Sacramentum...

Vatican: Matters to be observed or to be avoided regarding the Most Holy Eucharist (April 23, 2004)
CATHOLICS AND BAPTISTS WITNESSED UNUSUAL IMAGES IN BLESSED SACRAMENT
Devotion to the Holy Eucharist Advances Devotion to Jesus' Person
New rules on the Holy Eucharist on Holy Thursday
The Reverence due to the Holy Eucharist
The Holy Face of Jesus Christ as appeared on the Holy Eucharist
The Fourth Cup: The Sacrament of the Eucharist [Holy Thursday] [Passover]
Holy Father stresses Need of Devotion to Holy Eucharist outside of Mass: Pope Paul VI
Early Christians on the Holy Eucharist
EUCHARIST: HOLY MEAL

17 posted on 01/28/2010 7:38:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mad Dawg
Sorry Dawg. The point is missed.

What those unfamiliar with the Passover feast are ignorant of, is that Jesus used the 3rd cup, and the hidden half of the center matzah (the Afikomen) to perform the first Communion. He REVEALED HIMSELF in these two pieces symbolically, revealing their purpose.

But their presence within the Passover has been from time immemorial - right back to it's institution in Egypt.

The third cup is The Redemption Cup... The Fourth, The Cup of Thanksgiving is taken later... There is more to come. The Passover feast must still have relevance, as it has not yet been perfectly revealed.

Christ instituted nothing new, but only revealed the Communion within the Passover - He is the promised "Redemption". It is part and parcel of Gods appointed Holy Days.

I am still learning, so I may not be speaking with perfect accuracy, but without investigating the Passover as instituted by God (and all the other appointed Holy Days), one cannot see the truth.

I encourage you to research the Passover, and wonder why Jehovah would have left it undone - substituting a different ceremony in the context of the Eucharist or Communion.

The answer, ultimately, must be that He wouldn't. His Holy days are "shadows of things to come". They are part and parcel, part of the Prophecy. Those who reject them do so at their peril.

Ergo, the entire scheme of the Eucharist/Communion are anti-Christ... "replacement" for the real thing. To say otherwise, one must first explain the fulfillment of every single action and symbol of the Passover, and that cannot be done.

20 posted on 01/28/2010 10:16:50 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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So did Jesus say to them, "I didn't mean it, guys. I was just kind of, you know, using hyperbole or metaphor." No. He actually intensifies the scandal. He actually raises the obstacle even higher. "He said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood,' which Leviticus condemns, the drinking of blood, 'unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is food indeed and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him.'

"He said that four times in four different ways.

In verse 60, "Many of His disciples when they heard it said, 'This is a hard saying. Who can listen to it?'" That is an understatement. "Jesus, however, knowing in Himself that His disciples murmured at it" (the disciples, the followers, the spiritual proteges, not just the crowd now, the disciples themselves are taking offense at this and murmuring and grumbling), "said to them, 'Do you take offense at this? Then what if you were to see the son of man ascending to where He was before? It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is of no avail. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.'"

What words? That you've got to eat my flesh and drink my blood, those words.


Thank you, Mr. Hahn. Your thesis is very reassuring. See, I took the Eucharist as a Catholic many times. According to your reasoning, my salvation is assured.
21 posted on 01/29/2010 8:28:51 PM PST by armydoc
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27 posted on 05/09/2010 6:32:08 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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