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To: Mrs. Don-o

The fact that he lived through the entire Second World War living like a king is all I need to know.

If he had been jailed I would have been his STRONGEST supporter. He wasn’t and I have no respect for him.

I am not sure this is worth debating as you won’t be changing my mind, nor will I change yours.


12 posted on 01/24/2010 2:44:28 PM PST by MarkAccord
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To: MarkAccord
The fact that he lived through the entire Second World War living like a king is all I need to know.

Perhaps need is not the proper verb here.

13 posted on 01/24/2010 2:45:57 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: MarkAccord

You wrote:

“The fact that he lived through the entire Second World War living like a king is all I need to know.”

You need to know more. He gave up his house to shelter Jews - hundreds of them. Did you know that? Or would you file that under “want to Know” and therefore think it useless info?

“I am not sure this is worth debating as you won’t be changing my mind, nor will I change yours.”

The difference is we actually know what we’re talking about because we’ve all done research. Your attitude is that you only “need” to know a few things. Maybe the issue isn’t changing your mind. Maybe the issue is opening it.


19 posted on 01/24/2010 3:12:32 PM PST by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: MarkAccord
If he had been jailed I would have been his STRONGEST supporter.

Where he was, he saved between 700,000 and 860,000 Jewish lives.

That's not my number, that's the number computed by the Israeli diplomat, Pinchas Lapide.

What do you think he would have been able to do for the Jews in a prison cell?

What you are saying amounts to, "Pius XII didn't do enough to justify himself in my eyes". So what? He wasn't out to justify himself, but to do the will of God.

30 posted on 01/24/2010 3:54:04 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: MarkAccord
If he had been jailed I would have been his STRONGEST supporter. He wasn’t and I have no respect for him.

Welcome to FR.

When you get to be responsible for saving 860,000 people from a mass-murdering madman, you might (maybe) have sufficient credibility to criticize Pope Pius XII.

Until then ...

Your opinions are mere flatulence.

44 posted on 01/25/2010 8:25:33 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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