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Is There Life After Death?
http://www.time.com ^ | January 23, 2010 | Laura Fitzpatrick

Posted on 01/23/2010 3:48:39 AM PST by Biggirl

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To: James C. Bennett

If the “visions” are part of the brain’s dying process, which I have read before, then how is it that the “newly dead” portions of the brain come back to life when the person recovers? Why isn’t this brain damage permanent?


41 posted on 01/23/2010 8:08:44 AM PST by uscabjd
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To: FreeManWhoCan

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9601/little_buddha/

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/us-schoolboy-anointed-as-reincarnation-of—buddhist-high-priest-14546209.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/movies/2009484558_mr17unmistaken.html

One boy decided he didn’t want to be a monk any more:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/31/dalai-lama-osel-hita-torres

China tries to regulate reincarnation:

http://www.cecc.gov/pages/virtualAcad/index.phpd?showsingle=98716

“...As elderly reincarnations pass away, the measures authorize government officials to decide whether or not a reincarnation is eligible to reincarnate, and if one is permitted, the government will supervise the search for the subsequent reincarnation, as well as religious education and training...”


42 posted on 01/23/2010 8:10:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: fightinJAG
Excellent explanation! Even I got it!;-)

And thx for the Hawking link!

43 posted on 01/23/2010 8:13:23 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama's oratory is worse than hot air...it is oral flatulence!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Thank you, I hesitate to stumble around in this area, but I find the conclusions that can be drawn so very striking and exciting.


44 posted on 01/23/2010 8:17:41 AM PST by fightinJAG (Largest wing in future Obama Presidential Library will be devoted to Bush & Cheney)
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To: uscabjd
If what we call "dying" is simply a progressive change in how our mass --- or, more precisely, what quantum physics calls our "information" --- is arranged, then it seems logical that, at least until the rearrangement reaches some theoretical point of no return, that information can be rearranged back to its previous form.

You may be interested in the discussion we're having at # 39 on this thread.

45 posted on 01/23/2010 8:27:16 AM PST by fightinJAG (Largest wing in future Obama Presidential Library will be devoted to Bush & Cheney)
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To: BiggieLittle

And you know this how?


46 posted on 01/23/2010 8:30:39 AM PST by fightinJAG (Largest wing in future Obama Presidential Library will be devoted to Bush & Cheney)
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To: Biggirl
Well according to Genesis, when the flesh body of the Adam was formed ‘he’ was not alive until the ‘breath of life’ which means soul was breathed into his nostrils. And Solomon penned that the ‘soul’ upon death of the flesh vessel returns to the Maker that sent it.

Christ told Nicodemus that one had to be born from above in order to see the kingdom of God. So it is curious that the ‘science’ world is even contemplating delving into a theory they cannot see and test.

47 posted on 01/23/2010 8:31:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Darkwolf377
Obviously I don’t believe there is, but I’m fascinated by the confidence with which those who do affirm that belief.

While I don't believe in resurrection by magic wand, I find it hard to discount that one day we won't develop the technology to recreate consciousness. Multiple universes and convergent evolution also raise the possibility of a person experiencing eternal consciousness in some form. There are probably other possibilities I can't even imagine.

48 posted on 01/23/2010 8:53:34 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Biggirl

bump to the top


49 posted on 01/23/2010 8:57:15 AM PST by GOPJ (Happy Anniversary Barack! - - - Love, Massachusetts - - - FreeperGOPsterinMA)
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To: uscabjd

I’ve worked with this for about 20+ years, using all different modalities including hypnosis. I’ve had people who were in surgery under anesthesia tell me of leaving their body during the surgery and telling me details of the conversations between those attending and details about phone calls made when one of the Drs left the room. This included the phone numbers and details of the conversation in the other room. We called the numbers she gave me and verified them.

The most bizarre case I did was the first one in the early 1990’s when I was using hypnosis to help a 38 year old emergency room nurse deal with the pain of severe arthritus. She was going on disability it was so severe. Ordinarily, I would not do this as pain is a symptom and it could be caused by a tumor or something which needs to be diagnosed. This woman had been through the works of testing and her Dr said it was ok to use hypnosis for pain management.

She went immediately into a deep trance, and all I did was ask her “ If the pain in her shoulder could speak... What would it say?” A male voice answered me out of her mouth and said...”Get out of here!” Startled, I responded with the question...”Who said that?”

This guy proceeded to tell me his name, his address, his phone number, his wife’s and children’s names.... I asked him what he was doing here. He replied that he was killed in a car accident, where it was at and how it happened. He explained that he followed his body in the ambulance into the emergency room at the hospital where he saw this woman working. She was emotionally out of sorts which allowed him to move in and attach. I asked him why he stayed and he said he loved her... All this was totally outside my belief system and in response to non directive questions..

I went on to ask him exactly what caused his death. He explained that he was thrown from the car and it rolled on him. I asked what part of his body and he told me the left side, arm, shoulder and chest. This was the exact area where this woman’s pain was located. This is when I first realized that memories are stored in the soul and not in the physical body. His memories were manifesting as her pain!

He explained that he did not know he was causing her pain... Thus he agreed to leave. Her arm went up in the air and then went limp. He was gone and so was her arthritus.... This was the first of many, many situations with earthbound spirits.

Through this, I developed a technique that is real simple that allows me to read people’s souls and tell them what happened in their life since conception, without them saying anything, without touching them, and with no input at all from them. I’ve done this in university settings with total strangers who volunteered from the group. Needless to say, it freaks out the neuroscientists and MD’s. I’ll be doing a demonstration in North Carolina next Sat. for a group of psychologists. I use this as a depth psychology tool to help people heal emotional trauma.

Using what I learned from this, I have worked with people with severe emotional memories of trauma and removed the emational pain in about a minute, permanantly. This in front of groups as a demonstration, without them ever disclosing to anyone what the trauma was... I’ve done this with several vets (privately) and found that I can remove PTSD in a few minutes... permanantly.

Why... memories are stored at the soul level, the portion of us that nothing can destroy, not even an atomic bomb dropped on top of our head. Fear and anger can shackle it for a long time though!

I use these demonstrations to explain how Jeus did his healings and why the Bible teaches what it does. It’s all about healing the soul. ....

Ps. I have worked with vets who were in some bad war situations and removed spirits from them that spoke fluently in the vet’s enemies dialect. These guys did not know the language they spoke under hypnosis. This is the tip of the iceberg of many, many sessions!


50 posted on 01/23/2010 8:57:19 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: tired&retired
I’ll be doing a demonstration in North Carolina next Sat. for a group of psychologists. I use this as a depth psychology tool to help people heal emotional trauma.

Not the Rhine Research Center Institute by any chance? The successor to the Parapsychology Laboratory at Duke University?

You may as well identify yourself here on FR, since you've given enough information to do so via web search. I find it interesting that you're approaching this in an apparently Christian manner, and are gaining an audience with a group noted for overt hostility to same.

51 posted on 01/23/2010 9:23:24 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: tired&retired

Thank you for this reply - it is very interesting. Some questions:

1. Are you a Christian? These descriptions of spirits and death certainly do not conform to what I hear in church.

2. What is your academic background? I have a law degree, so I have no academic background on these topics.

3. Have you written books or articles? Do you recommend other books or articles by scientists/Drs on this topic?

4. Did you check to details of the man’s auto accident to see if they were accurate, and was this made public? His widow and kids might be interested.

5. Lastly, your experiences are very interesting to say the least. I am 63 and have been reading science all my life in the popular press, yet I have never heard of your work. Why is that?


52 posted on 01/23/2010 9:23:58 AM PST by uscabjd
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To: RegulatorCountry

I have not heard of his work, or any such work. Have you?


53 posted on 01/23/2010 9:37:36 AM PST by uscabjd
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To: Darkwolf377

“If I knew God I’d be Him.”


54 posted on 01/23/2010 9:58:28 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Darkwolf377
the only reason you've given me to believe this guy is because he went to college?

I guess I wasn't clear enough. He has a PhD. His position is Assistant Professor: Division of Perceptual Studies, Department of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences, University of Virginia Health System.

ML/NJ

55 posted on 01/23/2010 10:32:35 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Darkwolf377
http://www.skepticreport.com/newage/stevensonbook.htm

???

This isn't the book I mentioned.

BTW, Tucker's bio is here.

ML/NJ

56 posted on 01/23/2010 10:41:15 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Moonman62

The parallel universe(s) is a big part of why I think quantum physics supports the existence of life after the body becomes what we call “dead.”

See my posts elsewhere on the thread if you’re interested.


57 posted on 01/23/2010 11:11:33 AM PST by fightinJAG (Largest wing in future Obama Presidential Library will be devoted to Bush & Cheney)
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To: uscabjd

It would be disputable as to what actually constitutes as “newly dead”.

Are they able to measure if biochemical activity within the cells, have truly ceased? I don’t think so.


58 posted on 01/23/2010 11:13:37 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: RegulatorCountry

I belong to the Rhine Center as well. JB Rhine was on the faculty at Duke University. I know his daughter Sally who heads it now and have been to her house a few times.

It’s a good group as they do focus on the science of the paranormal.


59 posted on 01/23/2010 12:07:55 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh, by the way... I have no problem presenting myself as a Chrisitan. Universal truths are true in all religions. Next month I am presenting to a group of Buddhists. I’ve done the same for Hindu-Vedic groups. I see no problem with them when you go to the “core” truths which are universal to all of them.


60 posted on 01/23/2010 12:10:30 PM PST by tired&retired
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