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Objections to Marines' Bible-coded rifle sights
Baltimore Sun ^ | January 19, 2010

Posted on 01/19/2010 8:57:50 AM PST by Between the Lines

An atheist group is objecting to coded references to New Testament passages that a Michigan manufacturer is inscribing on rifle sights it provides to U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trijicon has a $660 million contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marines, and other contracts with the Army. ABC News reported Monday that the manufacturer, founded by a Christian, had long marked its products with what ABC News called “secret ‘Jesus’ Bible codes:” One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.

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KEYWORDS: marines; scripture; trijicon; usmilitary
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To: Lurker
Psalm 144: "Blessed be the Lord God My strength,which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight..."

CC

21 posted on 01/19/2010 9:29:13 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Calling illegal aliens "undocumented workers" is like calling drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists")
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To: Between the Lines

Brian Ross acted as if he had just discovered a fraudulent birth certificate or something.
His reaction to this “ scandal “ was akin to Abu Ghraib.
He was apoplectic that some Afghan solders may have been trained on weapons with these sights.
He also had a video of Bibles (allegedly ) in Arabic
being unboxed in Afghanistan and he accused US soldiers and chaplains of proselytizing.
The inscription is tiny , you really have to look for it and it’s been a long standing practice of Trijicon .
The Marines and Special Ops prefer the sights, the company just got a big defense contract and Ross definitely wanted that contract
voided because of Muslim sensitivities.


22 posted on 01/19/2010 9:29:43 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Lurker

Jesus never never never urged Peter for instance to take up a sword and fight the Romans. Jesus was destroying convention, and radically challenging society. Nothing that he advocated for could be met with peace. If Jesus had walked the streets of Richmond Virginia in the 1800’s decrying slavery he would not have been met with open arms. Jesus was a radical, and remains so today.


23 posted on 01/19/2010 9:30:22 AM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: Between the Lines

What I’m seeing out there in the Internet Gun Forum Pooled Ignorance System, and on the gun bloggers, is that most people think it’s cool, it’s funny, and even the hard core atheists wouldn’t let it keep them from buying Trijicon.


24 posted on 01/19/2010 9:34:11 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. " Gal 3:29)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
“WHY do the atheists even care?” For being a group of people so intent on not believing, they sure do seem to have a lot of hang-ups.

Because, of course, they're not indifferent. They hate God.

25 posted on 01/19/2010 9:35:44 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. " Gal 3:29)
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To: DariusBane
Jesus never never never urged Peter for instance to take up a sword and fight the Romans.

No, but He did tell his disciples to sell a extra cloak, and buy a sword for defensive purposes. Aggression was wrong, but self defense while traveling and spreading the gospel was acceptable even to Jesus.

CC

26 posted on 01/19/2010 9:37:37 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (Calling illegal aliens "undocumented workers" is like calling drug dealers "unlicensed pharmacists")
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To: Between the Lines
Honestly I never noticed. Next time I am in the armory I will have to check it out. We have some of their optics on our M4’s.
27 posted on 01/19/2010 9:40:48 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
He also had a video of Bibles (allegedly ) in Arabic

Do Afghans read and speak Arabic? LOL

28 posted on 01/19/2010 9:43:49 AM PST by the_daug
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To: Celtic Conservative

I agree with you completely. What I find fascinating about Jesus is he single handedly brought down the Roman Empire. He also destroyed slavery. I hear people complaining that the Bible did not specifically decry slavery as an institution. Instead, Christianity made slavery an impossibility and incompatible with a christian civilization. No where on earth will you find Christianity and Slavery together. So Jesus did bring a Sword he just does stuff his way.


29 posted on 01/19/2010 9:50:49 AM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: DariusBane
What I find fascinating about Jesus is he single handedly brought down the Roman Empire

Really? That's no mean feat considering Rome didn't fall for almost 400 years after the death of Christ and if you consider Constantinople almost 800 years.

30 posted on 01/19/2010 10:39:41 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Between the Lines
And in related news, atheists complained that Marines from Camp Pendleton were eating at In-N-Out, which has "secret Bible codes" on it food wrappers and drink cups.

31 posted on 01/19/2010 10:42:40 AM PST by atomic_dog
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To: Lurker

You are correct, and Slavery was not finished until the American Civil War. Constantine was part of the very very long process of changing the Roman Empire. Are you going to foolishly argue that the Byzantine Empire under Justinian was the same empire as under Domitian?


32 posted on 01/19/2010 10:43:40 AM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: DariusBane
Are you going to foolishly argue that the Byzantine Empire under Justinian was the same empire as under Domitian?

The same? No. But to the citizens it was still very much the Roman Empire.

33 posted on 01/19/2010 11:04:32 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

yes it was, but not the same Roman Empire


34 posted on 01/19/2010 11:20:06 AM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: MarineBrat

How appropriate is that saying. I love it.


35 posted on 01/19/2010 1:58:19 PM PST by cubreporter ( Rush is coming back on Wed. Welcome back Rush. God bless you for all you do for all of us.)
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