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To: Zionist Conspirator
You were saying ...

You misunderstand my objection completely. I am saying that G-d's overweening Providence governs all things whatsoever, the good and the bad.

From what I see in the Bible (the 66 books and 40 authors) and in regards to the general import of your statement -- that would be correct. I say that in the general, without getting into the specific.

There is nothing that is outside of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob's control. The Bible teaches that very clearly.

Whether someone wants to accept that or not, is another story -- but their acceptance or not doesn't affect the truth of the matter, in that regard.


It appears that chr*stianity truly has dethroned G-d.

Perhaps with some Christians, what you're saying is right, but from what I see of Christianity as taught from what the Bible says, I don't see that to be the case.

Again, I'll agree that this is so with many Christians and that's quite lamentable, but just because it's true with many Christians, doesn't make it true with Christianity and its teachings from the Bible.

And also..., I do see that the Bible does talk about a lesser and created being (whom we refer to as Satan) who was given permission by God to do several things to and against Job. It's still under God's control, though, as that is made perfectly clear in the book of Job.

59 posted on 01/18/2010 9:17:46 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Thank you for your thoughts, though I don't share your theology or your belief in "66 books by 40 authors." And unfortunately, chr*stianity isn't based on the Bible alone, but on the Bible as interpreted throughout chr*stian history by chr*stian authorities. I know you're Protestant and don't believe this, but it's true, and as you said, your non-belief in it doesn't keep it from being true. But I really have no wish to argue with you.

By chr*stianity "dethroning G-d" I was referring to the belief among some chr*stians that since the sin in the Garden G-d is no longer King of this world, it having passed into the "kingdom of Satan" or else reverted to pure randomness. The fact that the human mind cannot comprehend how Divine Providence coexists with free will, or why G-d's Providence allows for all that happens in the world, does not change the fact of Providence. Nothing "just happens." G-d's Providence is somehow mysteriously behind all that happens in the world, whether or not we understand why (or how).

61 posted on 01/18/2010 2:18:36 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi be`etzem hayom hazeh; hotzi' HaShem 'et-Beney Yisra'el me'Eretz Mitzrayim `al-tzivo'tam.)
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