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Government Of The Devil, By The Devil, And For The Devil (Haiti Government]
Live Leak ^ | Thursday, March 11, 2004 | Tom Barrett

Posted on 01/17/2010 2:15:23 PM PST by Star Traveler

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To: Star Traveler
Thank you for your thoughts, though I don't share your theology or your belief in "66 books by 40 authors." And unfortunately, chr*stianity isn't based on the Bible alone, but on the Bible as interpreted throughout chr*stian history by chr*stian authorities. I know you're Protestant and don't believe this, but it's true, and as you said, your non-belief in it doesn't keep it from being true. But I really have no wish to argue with you.

By chr*stianity "dethroning G-d" I was referring to the belief among some chr*stians that since the sin in the Garden G-d is no longer King of this world, it having passed into the "kingdom of Satan" or else reverted to pure randomness. The fact that the human mind cannot comprehend how Divine Providence coexists with free will, or why G-d's Providence allows for all that happens in the world, does not change the fact of Providence. Nothing "just happens." G-d's Providence is somehow mysteriously behind all that happens in the world, whether or not we understand why (or how).

61 posted on 01/18/2010 2:18:36 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayhi be`etzem hayom hazeh; hotzi' HaShem 'et-Beney Yisra'el me'Eretz Mitzrayim `al-tzivo'tam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You misunderstand my objection completely. I am saying that G-d's overweening Providence governs all things whatsoever, the good and the bad. I reject the notion that either "stuff just happens" or that an evil "gxd" called "the Devil" does the bad stuff. Absolutely everything that happens down to the last detail is governed by G-d's Providence--both General (Kelalit) and specific (Peratit).

You are correct. I did misunderstand. I am sorry.

I don't think anything on this earth throughout human history has happened without God's foreknowledge or sovereignty, and His purposes are above what we can possibly understand entirely.

If I misrepresented Christianity, for that too I apologize. I am afraid that there are those in Christianity who do believe that God is capricious. But it's not the historic practice of the church and certainly Christ and his apostles would agree with you.

62 posted on 01/18/2010 8:51:16 PM PST by agrarianlady
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And to follow up, I don’t think we can have any clue as to ‘cause and effect’ when bad ‘stuff happens’ on this scale. I can’t get past Nineveh. I don’t want to be like Jonah and presume to think God should respond to sin like clockwork. I completely reject the idea that any human could presume to *know* that God would send an earthquake to punish sin. Saying it or implying it is blasphemous.


63 posted on 01/18/2010 9:03:32 PM PST by agrarianlady
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