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To: Colofornian
I couldn't get past the first paragraph, as the ommitted parts completely change the meaning. More typical selective cut and paste to trash Mormonism.

Here's what you left out on #1, ABORTION. I've bolded the parts before and after that you intentionally skipped.

I won't bother doing the same with the rest, same pattern.

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But according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention there were more than 1,200,000 abortions performed in 1995 in the United States alone. What has happened to our regard for human life? How can women, and men, deny the great and precious gift of life, which is divine in its origin and nature?

How wonderful a thing is a child. How beautiful is a newborn babe. There is no greater miracle than the creation of human life.

Abortion is an ugly thing, a debasing thing, a thing which inevitably brings remorse and sorrow and regret.

While we denounce it, we make allowance in such circumstances as when pregnancy is the result of incest or rape, when the life or health of the mother is judged by competent medical authority to be in serious jeopardy, or when the fetus is known by competent medical authority to have serious defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

But such instances are rare, and there is only a negligible probability of their occurring. In these circumstances those who face the question are asked to consult with their local ecclesiastical leaders and to pray in great earnestness, receiving a confirmation through prayer before proceeding.

There is a far better way.

If there is no prospect of marriage to the man involved, leaving the mother alone, there remains the very welcome option of placing the child for adoption by parents who will love it and care for it. There are many such couples in good homes who long for a child and cannot have one.

11 posted on 01/12/2010 8:05:47 PM PST by Ripliancum (I'm not ignoring you, just taking good counsel. - Proverbs 15:1-2)
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To: Ripliancum
intentionally skipped

Ellipsis points to missing text no?

30 posted on 01/12/2010 9:22:58 PM PST by the_daug
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To: Ripliancum
Here's what you left out on #1, ABORTION. I've bolded the parts before and after that you intentionally skipped.

(Hey, this isn't my list -- so didn't "intentionally skip" anything).

While we denounce it, we make allowance...

Kind of says everything just right there, eh Rip? Except that you're not just "tolerating" it -- as if abortion comes upon you like a disease. Abortions are initiated. Abortion, in fact, is the means of death. It's like taking a knife or sword in your hand & slicing somebody up til you no longer recognize them. That's not an "allowance" -- how pathethic are the Mormon wordmeisters who came up with that!

...to pray in great earnestness, receiving a confirmation through prayer before proceeding.

So, on top of that, Mormons go further than any other church in their abortion language by bringing God in as a co-conspirator to this slice-and-dice crime. They say if you pray about it & He says, "OK, rev up the dismemberment vacuum cleaner," then it's all A-OK! How ugly!!!

That's not "tolerating" or "allowing" something; that's an open assault upon the most vulnerable place to live on earth!

...we make allowance in such circumstances as when pregnancy is the result of incest or rape...

Do you realize Rip, that when the Mormon bishops & Mormon church "allows" an incest perp-member to take their daughter or stepdaughter to the corner abortionist, they are helping that incest perpetrator cover up their crime? (And yet you present this act on violence upon both the baby & the mom-victim as something noble? You make my skin crawl when you justify one crime with another horrific one!)

...when the life or health of the mother is judged by competent medical authority to be in serious jeopardy, or when the fetus is known by competent medical authority to have serious defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.

Several things:
(1) This Lds statement twice references "competent medical authority". Here's the problem: This Lds statement hasn't kept up with the realities of the abortion industry. Don't you realize, Rip, that 90% of abortions are done in free-standing abortion clinics by full-time abortionists? (Not hospitals; not private OB-GYN offices)
(2)Therefore, don't you realize, Rip, that 90% of Mormon girls/women considering an abortion are likely to be headed for a full-time abortionist? And you think this abortionist is really going to cut back on his tally mark by considering the health of either victim #1 (baby) or victim #2 (Mom)? Really??? So the Lds church is now calling abortionists "competent medical authorities?"
(3) I can't tell you how many women were told the babies they were having were disabled or worse -- only to find out later (by not having the recommended abortion) that it just wasn't so. Anytime you turn a doctor or abortionist into a "prophet" (Lds statement language uses the word "known" as if they were a clairvoyant with 100% diagnostic accuracy), then look out!!!
(4) Look at this phrase: ...when the...health of the mother judged by competent medical authority to be in serious jeopardy..." (what the blank does that mean?) The 1973 Supreme Court used the word "health" in the exact same manner to justify ALL types of abortions; most "health" issues involving Mom won't kill her (ectopic situations -- and some stations of cancer development are about it -- IOW if "life" of the mother covered the phrasing already, pray tell WHY did the Mormon leaders see the necessity of adding the weasel clause of "health" to this horrific statement?

36 posted on 01/12/2010 9:51:00 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Ripliancum
I couldn't get past the first paragraph, as the ommitted parts completely change the meaning. More typical selective cut and paste to trash Mormonism.

...we make allowance in such circumstances as when pregnancy is the result of incest or rape..

Translation:

"Ignore the turd in the punchbowl - the rest of the food is fine."

63 posted on 01/13/2010 3:47:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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