They prolly look a lot like this:
Posted on 01/12/2010 5:40:21 AM PST by urroner
You would be justified!! ;^)
... that deluxe apartment in the sky!
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Thanks, elsie, now I will be singing the theme from the “Jeffersons” all day. Grrrr...
They prolly look a lot like this:
You mean like this guy?
Did you read post 14?
What was it that he supposedly did for God?
What did he do with all that money people sent him? Oh, that's right, diamond rings, Rolls Royces, silk suits.....
What about feeding the poor. Having healing services for the deaf?
As far as philanthropic works, lots of people do stuff like that, which is good and good comes out of it, but just because someone claims to be doing something in the name of God or for God, doesn't mean that they are.
Matthew 7: 21-23 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
So, maybe you can explain why he wouldn't have a healing service for the deaf when asked.
Perhaps you could explain why he lived like a king off the donations of his followers.
What's your connection to him that you're taking such offense at criticism of him?
Just a question: Do you think any people came into the kingdom of God as a result of Oral Roberts’ ministry?
I wouldn't have a clue, but numbers are not a measure of godliness of the minister or ministry or the truth or integrity of it.
Just sayin.
sw
I always LOVED the Reverend Ike...(paraphrasing)...”get it now...don’t look for the pie in the sky in the great by and by...”
That's exactly the kind of thing I learned in the Mormon Temple ceremony. Have you been? ...just sayin'
Your comments will be followed by mine. I cant seem to format italics...sorry.
Did you read post 14?
Yes.
What was it that he supposedly did for God?
Preached salvation, healing and deliverance for over 50 years.
What did he do with all that money people sent him?
Built a world class Christian university in addition to his other ministries.
What about feeding the poor.
I don’t know, but I don’t doubt his influence has had an overall positive impact on the poor through the many lives and ministries he has influenced for the better.
Having healing services for the deaf?
You’re condemning someone for something he didn’t do rather than what he did do. Would you condemn Jesus for not healing everyone in Israel during his day, or not responding to every invitation and request to show forth His miraculous power.
As far as philanthropic works, lots of people do stuff like that, which is good and good comes out of it, but just because someone claims to be doing something in the name of God or for God, doesn’t mean that they are.
OK.
Matthew 7: 21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Can’t argue with Jesus. Nor will I condemn my brother, who cannot defend his reputation, and assert that Jesus will reject him.
So, maybe you can explain why he wouldn’t have a healing service for the deaf when asked.
Perhaps he didn’t feel it advisable to come into a doubt-charged situation (the pastor who invited him) and try and overcome the environment of unbelief. Actually, I have no idea, but even Jesus couldn’t do any great miracles at Nazareth because of unbelief. Perhaps this pastor, if he felt Roberts was a charlatan, should instruct his deaf people not to send their money to him and provide for their healing through his own faith in our Lord Jesus. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Perhaps you could explain why he lived like a king off the donations of his followers.
Could you explain what you mean? Do you know his salary? How does he compare to an average CEO, and do you comdemn them as well? If his followers don’t feel they were robbed, why do you? Are you jealous that people found his ministry so significant to them that they were willing to give to his ministry?
What’s your connection to him that you’re taking such offense at criticism of him?
No connection, other than a fellow Christian who hates to see cheap shots taken at a brother in the Lord. I think the lack of demonstrable unity and love in the body of Christ does more damage to the kingdom of God and the church’s witness than television evangelists.
I wouldn’t have a clue (whether people were saved through Oral Roberts’ ministry), but numbers are not a measure of godliness of the minister or ministry or the truth or integrity of it.
True enough, but even Paul rejoiced at those who preached the gospel from wrong motives...as the gospel was being preached!
urroner,
Have you looked into prolotherapy and the new form
of platelet prolotherapy? It isn’t invasive and
is having real success...
best,
ampu
bump
I wonder why these threads turn into Mormon/Anti-Mormon discussions. Also, I’m offended by the title of the article, too, even though I’ve had doubts about Oral Roberts.
I thought this was going to be about Rick Warren.
Because the poster of the thread, dear urroner, is LDS and posted this as a “counter”.
IMO, the thread was created to “bash” Evangelicals.
Well...
It was POSTED by a MORMON.
One who has had little luck in DEFENDing MORMONism, so perhaps trying to get CHRISTIANS to defend what he considers to be a BAD example of a christian would divert some attention away from the HERESY of MORMONism.
Thanks aMPU. When I get back from the hospital, I look into those things.
reaganaut said:
“IMO, the thread was created to “bash” Evangelicals.”
I ask:
I point out that there could be corruption in the Evangelical community and I get accused of “bashing” Evangelicals, yet I don’t hear too many complaints of the many, many threads “bashing” the Mormon Church.
reaganaut, was I wrong in doing so?
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