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THERE IS NO PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
TruthInConviction ^ | Jan 12 | J, Grant Swank, Jr.

Posted on 01/12/2010 4:39:55 AM PST by freedomyes

Those who are not strong will drop--fall away, as biblically predicted. They will be too numerous to contemplate. But for those who are truly into carrying the daily cross there will be nothing able to thwart their zeal for Christ.

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1 posted on 01/12/2010 4:40:00 AM PST by freedomyes
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To: freedomyes

Yes there is.


2 posted on 01/12/2010 4:58:32 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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To: freedomyes

Aliens are watching over you


3 posted on 01/12/2010 5:04:19 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: freedomyes

Good article...Its sad to see so many Christians sucked in by the Rapture theory and the cottage industry of “Left Behind” movies.

Its gonna cause a lot of them to mistakenly follow antichrist when the pre-trib rapture they believed in for so long doesnt happen, and their (seemingly) only escape from the terrible tribulation is to join the enemy and his One World Order beast system.


4 posted on 01/12/2010 5:32:44 AM PST by HailReagan78
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To: RoadGumby
I stopped reading the story at the first paragraph when the author refers to it as the “secret rapture of the church”. What's secret about it? And what's with the use of “untold thousands”?
If those of us who believe the Church will not be here for the Great Tribulation are correct, there will be no secret about it when “untold millions” rapture believers and non rapture believers alike are caught up.
5 posted on 01/12/2010 5:58:35 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: HailReagan78
I don't know for sure when the Christians will be "raptured". I know it will happen Matthew 24 explains that.

I do know there will be a lot of surprised people when it does happen. I would like to think that God has a sense of humor, and will let us experience some of the end times events. Weeding out the chaff, if you will. God knows our hearts, so it is not a question to him, but for the rest of us, I think it would be interesting to see just what people will really do when the proverbial poo hit is fan.

I don't dwell on time lines, I just keep me and house ready for the glorious return of our Lord.

6 posted on 01/12/2010 6:00:05 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: freedomyes

16 Proofs of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

http://www.rapturealert.com/sixteenproofs.html


7 posted on 01/12/2010 6:07:46 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: freedomyes
I did a study once on pre, mid, & post tribulation theory. I can't quote scripture here, it was awhile ago, but I do remember that after doing the study of all three possibilities, that there was no doubt in my mind that PRE trib was correct and the other two possibilities were weak at best.

We will see one day who was correct.

8 posted on 01/12/2010 6:12:10 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: freedomyes
I did a study once on pre, mid, & post tribulation theory. I can't quote scripture here, it was awhile ago, but I do remember that after doing the study of all three possibilities, that there was no doubt in my mind that PRE trib was correct and the other two possibilities were weak at best.

We will see one day who was correct.

9 posted on 01/12/2010 6:13:57 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: freedomyes

Same here....Nobody knows the time or hour, we just have to be watchmen.

The one timeline that IS certain, is the order of the Trumps...

6th Trump- Satan arrives de facto, in the form of antichrist..

7th Trump, Christ returns and ALL are instantly transformed into our spiritual bodies,(both the GOOD and BAD, in preparation for the Millennium and judgment), and all flesh is cast off. ...(I Corinthians 15:52 “In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”)

antichrist comes FIRST, and as long as you can pinch yourself, then Christ hasnt returned yet.

If we are waiting for a rapture, then you are going to be raptured by someone other than Jesus Christ for He is coming to earth to set up His kingdom here. The seventh trump is the exact time when the change takes place, and at no other place.


10 posted on 01/12/2010 6:19:38 AM PST by HailReagan78
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To: faucetman
I would like to think the pre-trib is correct (it would be easier and more pleasant), and everything I have seen, and read points that direction. Still the hard facts that specifically say this is how it will happen are not there. Everything is speculation.

What we do know is the eventual outcome, and it is nice to know that the good guys win.

11 posted on 01/12/2010 6:25:48 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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Its gonna cause a lot of them to mistakenly follow antichrist when the pre-trib rapture they believed in for so long doesnt happen,...

This makes no sense.

Why would Born Again Christians join Satan because they were wrong about the timing of the Rapture?

12 posted on 01/12/2010 6:30:03 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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I think we Christians spend way too much time battling over nonessential differences in denominational doctrine, with the time of the rapture being one of the most frequent subjects of spats. Pretty damn silly thing for Christians to be spatting over which always includes name calling, teasing, and putting each other down, and I bet God thinks so to.


13 posted on 01/12/2010 6:30:48 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

In essentials, Unity. In non essentials, Liberty. In all things, Charity.


14 posted on 01/12/2010 6:36:24 AM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: freedomyes

Pre-trib, post-trib, mid-trib, none ... blah, blah. This is a silly argument and a theological irrelevancy. No one, save the Almighty Himself, knows for sure — and no one CAN know for sure.

And, in the scheme of things, it doesn’t really matter. What will happen will happen ... just make sure you’re on God’s good side when it does.

SnakeDoc


15 posted on 01/12/2010 6:46:46 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Life is tough; it's tougher if you're stupid. -- John Wayne)
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To: wmfights

That’s what I thought when I read that.

The way I see it, Jesus told us to be ready for His return because we don’t know the day or the hour of His return.

Just be ready ... be ready to go if there is a pre-trib rapture ... be ready to stand and be killed in His name if there isn’t.

The point is to be ready for His return. Period.


16 posted on 01/12/2010 6:48:54 AM PST by Sister_T (Stealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing ... Exodus 20:15)
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To: SnakeDoctor
And, in the scheme of things, it doesn’t really matter. What will happen will happen ... just make sure you’re on God’s good side when it does.

And there it is. Amen!

17 posted on 01/12/2010 6:49:51 AM PST by Sister_T (Stealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing ... Exodus 20:15)
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To: wmfights

They wont even know he’s Satan.

Satan wont be here appearing as some demon, out to kill people...He will be coming to deceive the world into thinking he IS Christ. He comes into power peacefully and prosperously (Daniel 8:24 “And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People.”...Daniel 8:25 “And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.”)

This king is Satan, and he will “destroy many by peace”, which means “deceive” many. How will this deception come? “Wonderfully”, which is even deceiving. (Strong’s Hebrew dictionary # 6381; “Pala; a prime root; distinguished, great, marvelous, miracles, wonderfully.”) That is how Satan, the Antichrist will come to earth. Satan will have his bag of tricks, and supply your every financial need, and all he expects from you is your worship, and your soul.

Think Christian people wont fall for Satan’s charade after the pre-trib rapture doesnt occur and they are still here on earth, now being persecuted, unable to work,buy food, pay their bills, etc? Meanwhile AC’s New World Order system offers to pay your bills, protect you from harm , all (falsely) in the name of Christ?

Look at how many Christians swallow up the “Prosperity Gospel” ...They’ll fall for him hook line and sinker.

Heck, 30% or so of “evangelicals” voted for Obama...If they will sell-out their beliefs for that fraud, what will they do when they face a supernatural being (along with many of his angels) in the form of antichrist performing miracles and posing as Christ? (remember antichrist means “instead of Christ”, and he will be supernatural, NOT a flesh man)

SO, of course many will follow antichrist if theyre not prepared when the rapture doesnt occur.


18 posted on 01/12/2010 6:55:39 AM PST by HailReagan78
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To: NavyCanDo
You must be one of "THOSE Christians". :)

Couldn't agree with you more, we spend far to much time defending one little difference in doctrinal belief, and less time studying the facts laid out before us. I often wonder why there will be two churches of the same denomination next to each other. We have two here that nearly share a parking lot.

How can we as Christians expect to make a difference in the world if we constantly argue every ones hermeneutics. We have so many Churches in the world because no two people can agree on everything. Except the differences and move on. There will be a day when everything makes perfect sense, I am looking forward to that day, but I hope it is a long way off.

19 posted on 01/12/2010 6:57:23 AM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: HailReagan78
The seventh trump is the exact time when the change takes place, and at no other place.

And this is where your exegesis crumbles to dust ... you assume the 7th trumpet of Revelation is the last trump of Corinthians. Your entire eschatological position is based on this assumed correlation. I suggest you do a little work.

20 posted on 01/12/2010 7:05:05 AM PST by dartuser ("Palin 2012 ... nothing else will do.")
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