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To: Petronski

By raising the words of men above the Word of God you are in effect diminishing the Word of God.

May I continue to strive not to raise anything above the Lord, as some are prone to do.

Seriously, Petronski, have you ever praised or honored or esteemed the Lord *above* your particular denomination? Or is it not possible for you to simply extol the Lord?


197 posted on 01/04/2010 6:56:49 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo
By raising the words of men above the Word of God you are in effect diminishing the Word of God.

And yet I do not do that.

Stop misrepresenting me. Does Exodus 20:16 mean anything to you?

Would you like a remedial link to boost your wisdom?

199 posted on 01/04/2010 6:58:32 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Theo
Seriously, Petronski, have you ever praised or honored or esteemed the Lord *above* your particular denomination?

The Catholic Church is not a denomination.

Or is it not possible for you to simply extol the Lord?

Is it not possible for you to stop beating your wife?

205 posted on 01/04/2010 7:05:55 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Theo
Seriously, Petronski, have you ever praised or honored or esteemed the Lord *above* your particular denomination? Or is it not possible for you to simply extol the Lord?

Let me come in and draw some fire.

Since it's already been decided that we're arrogant, I don't guess I need to be afraid to say that we don't consider the Catholic Church a "denomination." I'm not trying to be picky. But we, or most of us, really believe what we say. It's THE Church. It's not confined to those who are "in full communion with the See of Rome," but in our view it includes even those who hate it, certainly if they are Baptized.

Now, of course we esteem the husband before the bride, and the head before the body. But when husband and wife are one flesh, and head and body are one being, sometimes the distinctions nor only are difficult but seem unnecessary.

However, though often I think our aid would be rejected, if some one were to come into this thread to argue against our Lord and His saving work or against the very notion of God, we'd drop this discussion to go up against them.

And, I suppose, when they left, we'd be back to having you all tell us we put ourselves about God, when, really, truly seriously, what we see in the Bible is not "Magisterium" in so many words but is certainly a promise that the Spirit will lead us into all truth AND a very clear discourse in I COR 12 about diversities of gifts, in which teaching and prophesying are explicitly mentioned. Not all are teachers. Not all, therefore can claim the charism, the spiritual gift of teaching rightly. Not all are prophets, but when the council met in Jerusalem, their conciliar encyclical dared to say that their conclusion seemed good to the Holy Spirit.

I know our adversaries will scoff. And I suppose some will be influenced by that scoffing. But I read the Bible, have read the Bible, will read the Bible, and I do not see my teachers doing anything other than what the Bible said they would, could, and should do.

208 posted on 01/04/2010 7:10:25 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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