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To: NYer

“The reality of Mary’s divine maternity was
proclaimed a dogma of the faith by the Council
of Ephesus in 431, ...”

That is the problem with elevating tradition to doctrine -
it never ends.... even where it is in conflict with the Bible.

Saying that Mary was chosen to bear Christ is vastly different
than saying she is the Mother of God. Christ was God the Son
before His incarnation into Mary’s womb. Mary contributed to
Christ’s human nature. Not His divine nature, which He always
possessed.

One reflects a fact, as a result of God’s divine choice.
The other says more than it should.

not that any of that would change your belief. Just a comment.
...


7 posted on 01/02/2010 3:41:27 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Not that any of these would change your mind, but you might discover some more truths.

How could Mary be the Mother of God?
Calling Mary “Mother of God” Tells Us Who Jesus Is
Mary, Motherhood, and the Home BY Archbishop Fulton Sheen
On Mary, Mother of Priests

Mary: Holy Mother
Mary: Mother of Divine Life: Model of Pro-life Apostles [Catholic Caucus]
The Mother of God [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Mother of God calls us to be 'Bearers of God'
HE INCREASES AND SHE DECREASES [Mary, Mother of God]

Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God - Mary, Full of Grace
Happy Mother's Day to Mary - the Mother of God
Catholic beliefs about Mary, the Mother of God
Mary, Mother of God
The Early Church Fathers on The Mother of God - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

Mary, Mother of God
Mary in Feminist Theology: Mother of God or Domesticated Goddess?
Mary: True Mother of God
Feast of Mary, Mother of God (not a Holy Day of Obligation this year)
MARIAN DEVOTION - Akathist Hymn to the Mother of God

Mother of God
Virgin Mother of God
A Homily on the Dormition of Our Supremely Pure Lady Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary
The Mother of the Son: The Case for Marian Devotion
Mary: True Mother of God

13 posted on 01/02/2010 3:45:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It sounds to me as if we are arguing 2000 year old techniques of MARKETING...MOTHER OF GOD has a much better RING to it.

There are CHRISTIAN Groups today who Clearly Proclaim the CHRIST iS GOD.. and I’m talking other than the Originators of the Mother of God bit.

I’m not going to bother repeating ... my othe post still stands.


14 posted on 01/02/2010 3:47:46 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his office. ")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Well said. The divinity of Jesus, the Christ, inheres in him because of his co-equal sharing of the divine godhead, and does not in any sense depend upon or flow from the mortal woman through whose womb he was made incarnate. This heresy is part of a campaign to elevate Mary to the status of co-redemptrix, absent any scriptural authority for so doing.


20 posted on 01/02/2010 4:03:04 PM PST by Elsiejay (.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

your comment makes sense.


36 posted on 01/02/2010 4:34:28 PM PST by goat granny
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What we call the Bible are sacred books and letters assembled and so recognized and authenticated by the Catholic Church.

Mary bore a Son, the Christ. He is both divine and human, and She is therefore the Mother of Christ as He Himself recognized her in one of his last seven words from the cross.

“Mother, behold your son.” (John 19:26-27)


39 posted on 01/02/2010 4:48:31 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Nestorius!

40 posted on 01/02/2010 4:49:45 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Nicely put.


133 posted on 01/03/2010 10:39:14 AM PST by Bainbridge
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