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To: NYer

When Catholics recite “Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you” while praying the Rosary, they are uttering the words of God. Would that they’d stop there. Mary’s nice-ness, Mary’s grace-ness, Mary’s chosen-ness, all granted. But she’s teh mother of God’s son, Jesus. She’s not the Mother of God, nor is she Queen of Heaven.


14 posted on 01/02/2010 11:43:05 AM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: flowerplough; NYer
What about the word of Elizabeth -- Mary's kinswoman.

Luke
Chapter 1
 
During those days Mary set out and traveled to the hill country in haste to a town of Judah,
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where she entered the house of Zechariah and greeted Elizabeth.
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When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit,
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cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
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And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord 14 should come to me?
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For at the moment the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy.
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Blessed are you who believed 15 that what was spoken to you by the Lord would be fulfilled."
 
The bolding of text is mine.  And a couple of footnotes:

14 [43] Even before his birth, Jesus is identified in Luke as the Lord.

15 [45] Blessed are you who believed: Luke portrays Mary as a believer whose faith stands in contrast to the disbelief of Zechariah (Luke 1:20). Mary's role as believer in the infancy narrative should be seen in connection with the explicit mention of her presence among "those who believed" after the resurrection at the beginning of the Acts of the Apostles (Acts 1:14).


15 posted on 01/02/2010 12:26:13 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: flowerplough; Salvation
she’s teh mother of God’s son, Jesus. She’s not the Mother of God

Jesus is God, 2nd person of the Trinity Mary is His mother, hence, Mary is the mother of God. To claim otherwise, as we have read above, is heresy.

16 posted on 01/02/2010 1:27:27 PM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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To: flowerplough
So you don't believe in the Trinity.

Interesting.

19 posted on 01/02/2010 3:58:04 PM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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