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To: Steelfish
Joel O is a fraud of monumental proportions using Christianity to pack his bank balances by tens of millions of dollars. Will these imbecile followers ever learn?

Please backup your words with facts.

Tell us exactly how Joel Osteen is a fraud, of course provide us with links and evidence of such as well.

7 posted on 12/19/2009 6:49:02 PM PST by adm5 (YOU CANNOT FIX CAPITALISM WITH SOCIALISM! -Glenn Beck)
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To: adm5

Just type in “Joel Osteen Fraud” in Google and see what you get!


13 posted on 12/19/2009 6:55:12 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: adm5

Well, what leaps to my mind immediately is his interview with Larry King — when asked about why he didn’t preach about hell, he answered (paraphrased) that his congregation didn’t want to hear about it.

Christ talked about hell.

I have yet to understand exactly how Osteen expounds the Gospel on any level. Does he preach Christ, and Him crucified? Does he preach that Christians are to expect to be hated and tried?

Or, does he preach, “blab it and grab it”?

Just sayin’.

Hoss


18 posted on 12/19/2009 7:00:54 PM PST by HossB86
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To: adm5
He teaches a prosperity gospel. I don't know if I'd call him a fraud, but his ministry is very light on the gospel. I just checked his web site and to go to one of his revivals there's a $15 charge. On the front page there's no mention of Jesus, but advertisements for several of his books.

Just in my opinion, I'd be more inclined to listen to Tony Robbins than Joel Osteen. At least Robbins gives practical advice.

30 posted on 12/19/2009 7:17:20 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: adm5
Tell us exactly how Joel Osteen is a fraud

He takes your money and gives you nothing in return that you can't get for free. Give me a break.
33 posted on 12/19/2009 7:20:53 PM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: adm5
Please backup your words with facts.

As requested.

KING: Because we've had ministers on who said, your record don't count. You either believe in Christ or you don't. If you believe in Christ, you are, you are going to heaven. And if you don't no matter what you've done in your life, you ain't.

OSTEEN: Yeah, I don't know. There's probably a balance between. I believe you have to know Christ. But I think that if you know Christ, if you're a believer in God, you're going to have some good works. I think it's a cop-out to say I'm a Christian but I don't ever do anything ...

KING: What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?

OSTEEN: You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know ...

KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they?

OSTEEN: Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don't know. I've seen their sincerity. So I don't know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.

OK, a "minster of God" who denies that Christ is the only way?

It wasn't a hard question. This is what the Bible teaches. The same B ible he waves in the air during his weekly production and claims to believe every word.

162 posted on 12/21/2009 12:46:29 AM PST by Gamecock
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