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To: marshmallow; All

Excuse me, but the cross is only a symbol of Christ’s SACRIFICE for all humanity. The cross is not an idol to be worshipped.

And .. for anybody who is willing to hear, CHRIST IS NOT ON THE CROSS ANY LONGER. JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD - BY THE POWER OF GOD - PROVING THAT JESUS’ SACRIFICE WAS REAL AND HAD A PURPOSE. THE PURPOSE WAS TO SAVE ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE ON HIM (CHRIST) .. not all those who believe on Joel.

I watch Joel every Sunday. I find his preaching refreshing and uplifting, and I write down all the scripture references he uses and read them for myself.

It’s only jealously to be afraid of a Christian man who owns a huge and fancy arena in which to preach. Such a person needs to be redeemed.

A good key to remember is this: If Joel is from God, nobody will be able to stop him. If Joel is not from God, God is more than capable of shuting him down. The unbelievers of this world don’t have to do anything .. God can take care of it.


17 posted on 12/19/2009 6:58:33 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: CyberAnt

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21 posted on 12/19/2009 7:04:33 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: CyberAnt
Excuse me, but the cross is only a symbol of Christ’s SACRIFICE for all humanity. The cross is not an idol to be worshipped.

It's more than a symbol. Jesus says that anyone who would be a follower of His, must take up his own cross. The New Testament is clear both in the word and in the example of the apostles and evangelists that trials and struggles await those who follow Jesus

And .. for anybody who is willing to hear, CHRIST IS NOT ON THE CROSS ANY LONGER. JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD - BY THE POWER OF GOD - PROVING THAT JESUS’ SACRIFICE WAS REAL AND HAD A PURPOSE. THE PURPOSE WAS TO SAVE ALL THOSE WHO BELIEVE ON HIM (CHRIST) .. not all those who believe on Joel.

Jesus is the head of the Church which is His body. The Church militant here on earth still suffers and struggles and lives out the Passion of Jesus.

I watch Joel every Sunday. I find his preaching refreshing and uplifting, and I write down all the scripture references he uses and read them for myself.

Read a few he doesn't use.

It’s only jealously to be afraid of a Christian man who owns a huge and fancy arena in which to preach. Such a person needs to be redeemed.

Who's jealous? I fear for the Osteen "bubble".

A good key to remember is this: If Joel is from God, nobody will be able to stop him. If Joel is not from God, God is more than capable of shuting him down. The unbelievers of this world don’t have to do anything .. God can take care of it.

On that, we agree.

25 posted on 12/19/2009 7:10:18 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: CyberAnt

“It’s only jealously”

Yep. That’s about the size of it.

How can someone tell you how to prosper if they aren’t prospering themselves?

He has accepted a (relatively) small salary for the level of financial responsibility he has. He also donated a bunch of the money from one of his books to a charity.

As you said, it’s just jealousy.


61 posted on 12/19/2009 8:02:26 PM PST by webstersII
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To: CyberAnt

First of all, Satan has been granted authority over the earth.

Second, he does not preach the plan for salvation. He preaches “give your money to me and be happy.”


172 posted on 12/21/2009 10:54:14 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a "Second Sons of Liberty".)
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