> NZ is heavily mormon and has been for decades. Perhaps that influences some opinions.
Not mine.
> In THAT case, if Christians say that mormons are NOT Christian, who are you to argue?
A Christian who says they are, because they say they are.
If they say they are Christians, then they will be judged by that standard. And we as Christians are foolish indeed to judge them. And they would be foolish indeed to want to be judged by the Christian standard if they aren’t Christian.
Judgment is not easier for the Christian, it is harder.
You got Bible scripture for any of that ???
Well, judging seems to come quite easily to those who judge us for using OUR judgement.
I'll answer to God. Those who feel compelled to ignore decades of non-Christian behavior and hateful speech against all Christians by mormon leaders and carry their water won't influence my judgement.
Well, obviously that second line is so...but if we leave everything up to "self-identification" then the lines become so blurred distinctions become irrelevant.
MBraynard was a Freeper a few years ago who made a similar claim...I responded to him: Tell you what. Since everything is self-identifying, you & I can form a new group: Mormon Jews for Jesus! We’ll send off press releases to the various Jewish groups around the nation. In those releases, we’ll tell them that we’ll commence “baptizing” deceased Jewish victims of the holocaust in our new temporary temples. (I’m sure they’ll “rejoice” at such news and provide needed genealogical information!)"
My obvious point to Mr. Braynard was that just as the Jews don't think "Jewishness" is a self-identifying trait...
...likewise, Mr. Hinckley, the deceased Lds "prophet" tried to tell Larry King on CNN there were no such thing as "fundamentalist Mormons" because he didn't want Mormonism to be a self-identifying trait, either...
...likewise, DieHard, can't you appreciate that some faith boundaries must exist?
'Cause if not, let's all just join the new religion of Ecumenicalism. Here, I'm your new ecumenical guru. Copy down my "lecture" notes for you: A fundamentalist Mormon-is-a-Mormon-is-a-Christian-is-a-Jonestownite-is-a-Branch-Davidian-is-a-Heavens-Gate-ian-is-a-Urantia believer-is a Church Universal & Triumphant-is-a-Wicca-Witch-is-Voodoo practioner-is -a-New-Ager-is-a-whirling dervish-is-a-Hindu-is-a-Sikh-is-a-Muslim!) (Whew!!)
[And you may have thought religious pantheism was dead!)