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To: Poe White Trash; T Minus Four; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

This is a great article that shows the root problem with Romanism, that is, the pagan notion of a heirarchy of being that informs all Romanist theology as shown through the specfic problem of clerical celibacy.


2 posted on 12/14/2009 11:09:25 AM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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To: the_conscience
Let's summarize: "Clerical celibacy is wrong because men are beasts who can't control themselves. We have the word of a noted 16th century clerical horndog for that."

Teenage celibacy is wrong, too. Christians should encourage hooking up. /s

3 posted on 12/14/2009 11:13:46 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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Thank God you’re not describing the Catholic Church.


13 posted on 12/14/2009 11:23:55 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: the_conscience

BTW, Martin Luther managed to see his way clear to performing at least polygamous marriage. Look it up.


19 posted on 12/14/2009 11:27:40 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: the_conscience

“Pagan” notion? No, it is a construct of the author, premised on a rejection of the spiritual hierarchy of the Church. And historically it replaces the clergy not with some “priesthood of all believers” but the heads of family. In practical terms, the purpose of requiring a celibate clergy was to prevent them from becoming a social caste in a feudal society, and spirtually on the same level as barbarous warlords.


45 posted on 12/14/2009 11:46:01 AM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: the_conscience
the pagan notion of a heirarchy of being that informs all Romanist theology

A heirarchy of being? Like this?

God >> Angels >> Man >> Animals >> Plants >> Inanimate Objects.

So instead, you believe all things created and uncreated are equal, with no heirarchy?

67 posted on 12/14/2009 12:20:19 PM PST by Heliand
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To: the_conscience
This is a great article that shows the root problem with Romanism, that is, the pagan notion of a heirarchy of being that informs all Romanist theology as shown through the specfic problem of clerical celibacy.

Yup.

The Roman Catholics see the body as evil, just like the ancient Greeks.
Comes out in their doctrine.

Reformed see man as image bearers. Catholics may say that, but it doesn't pan out with what they teach.

89 posted on 12/14/2009 1:57:03 PM PST by Gamecock
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Bumping to read shortly. The article looks to agree with my husband who believes that the Roman Catholic priestcraft is at the root of the papacy’s corruption.


112 posted on 12/14/2009 3:02:19 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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I’ve thought it odd that the Catholic Church would be against their priests marrying, yet still look the other way when bishops, cardinals, and popes had concubines. It would seem to me that they should follow Paul’s advise and if they do have earthly desires, then let a man marry. It’s rather hypocritical to pretend there is no problem.


126 posted on 12/14/2009 4:35:27 PM PST by HarleyD
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the_conscience says:
This is a great article that shows the root problem with Romanism, that is, the pagan notion of a heirarchy of being that informs all Romanist theology as shown through the specfic problem of clerical celibacy.
Learned and charitable refutations are humbly solicited.
141 posted on 12/14/2009 7:13:31 PM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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