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The Gospel and the Church
By Ronald E. Poelman
The First Quorum of the Seventy
General Conference October, 1984
Two different version of this talk were distributed. The first was given over the pulpit at general conference, the second was published in the Ensign and on the official conference videotape. Differences between the two talks are highlighted in red. Deletions from the original talk are set off by strikethrough Font, while additions in the Ensign version are Underlined.
Conference Version | Version Published in the Ensign and on Video Tape |
Both the gospel of Jesus Christ and the Church of Jesus Christ are true and divine. | Both the gospel of Jesus Christ and the Church of Jesus Christ are true and divine, |
and there is an essential relationship between them that is significant and very important. | |
Understanding the proper relationship between the gospel and the Church will prevent confusion, misplaced priorities, and failed expectations and will lead to the realization of gospel goals through happy, fulfilling participation in the Church. Such understanding will avoid possible disaffection and will result in great personal blessings. | |
As I attempt to describe and comment upon |
As I attempt to describe and comment upon the essential relationship between the gospel and the Church it is my prayer that a perspective may be developed which will enhance the influence of both the gospel and the Church in our lives. |
The gospel of Jesus Christ is a divine and perfect plan. It is composed of eternal, unchanging principles and laws which are universally applicable to every individual regardless of time, place, or circumstance. | The gospel of Jesus Christ is a divine and perfect plan. It is composed of eternal, unchanging principles, laws, and ordinances which are universally applicable to every individual regardless of time, place, or circumstance. |
The principles |
Gospel principles never change. |
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is |
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the kingdom of God on Earth administered by the priesthood of God. |
The Church has authority to teach correctly the principles and doctrines of the gospel and to administer its essential ordinances. | The Church has the authority to teach correctly the principles and doctrines of the gospel and to administer its essential ordinances. |
The gospel is the substance of the divine plan for personal, individual salvation and exaltation. The Church is |
The gospel is the divine plan for personal, individual salvation and exaltation. The Church is divinely commissioned to provide the means and resources that implement this plan in each individual's life. |
Procedures programs and policies are developed within the Church to help us realize gospel blessings according to our individual capacity and circumstances. Under divine direction, these policies, programs, and procedures |
Procedures programs and policies are developed within the Church to help us realize gospel blessings according to our individual capacity and circumstances. Under divine direction, these policies, programs, and procedures may be changed from time to time as necessary to fulfill gospel purposes. |
Underlying every aspect of Church administration and activity are the revealed eternal principles as contained in the scriptures. . | Underlying every aspect of Church administration and activity are the revealed eternal principles as contained in the scriptures. |
As individually and collectively we increase our knowledge, acceptance, and application of gospel principles, we |
As individually and collectively we increase our knowledge, acceptance, and application of gospel principles, we can more effectively utilize the Church to make our lives more gospel centered. |
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The eternal principles of the gospel implemented through the divinely inspired Church apply to a wide variety of individuals in diverse cultures. |
The conformity we require should be according to God's standards. | Therefore, as we live the gospel and participate in the Church, the conformity we require of ourselves and of others should be according to God's standards. |
The orthodoxy upon which we insist must be founded in fundamental principles and eternal law, |
The orthodoxy upon which we insist must be founded in fundamental principles, eternal law, and direction given by those authorized in the Church. |
A necessary perspective is gained by studying and pondering the scriptures. |
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Reading the scriptures, we learn the gospel as it is taught by various |
Reading the scriptures, we learn the gospel as it is taught by various prophets in a variety of circumstances, times, and places. |
We see the consequences as |
We see the consequences as the gospel is accepted or rejected by individuals and as its principles are applied or not. |
In the scriptures we discover that varying institutional forms, procedures and regulations and ceremonies |
In the scriptures we discover that varying institutional forms, procedures and regulations and ceremonies were utilized, all divinely designed to implement eternal principles. The practices and procedures change; the principles do not. |
As we liken the scriptures unto ourselves we can better utilize the institutional resources of the modern restored Church to learn, live and share the gospel of Jesus Christ. | As we liken the scriptures unto ourselves we can better utilize the institutional resources of the modern restored Church to learn, live and share the gospel of Jesus Christ. |
A favorite scriptural source for is the Old Testament Book of Leviticus. | A favorite scriptural source for is the Old Testament Book of Leviticus. |
It is basically a handbook for Hebrew priests and contains many rules, regulations, rituals and ceremonies which seem strange and inapplicable to us. | It is basically a handbook for Hebrew priests and contains many rules, regulations, rituals and ceremonies which seem strange and inapplicable to us. |
It also contains eternal principles of the gospel which are familiar and very much applicable to everyone. | It also contains eternal principles of the gospel which are familiar and very much applicable to everyone. |
It is interesting and enlightening to read the 19th chapter of Leviticus, noting both the principles and the rules and practices. | It is interesting and enlightening to read the 19th chapter of Leviticus, noting both the principles and the rules and practices. |
In the first two verses we read, "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel....." (Leviticus 19: 1-2) | In the first two verses we read, "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel....." (Leviticus 19: 1-2) |
Here is the principle of revelation. | Here is the principle of revelation. |
God speaks to his children through prophets. | God speaks to his children through prophets. |
He does so today. | He does so today. |
Continuing, the Lord says to Moses, "....say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy." (Leviticus 19:2) | Continuing, the Lord says to Moses, "....say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy." (Leviticus 19:2) |
Jesus, in the Sermon on the Mount, said, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48) Here is an eternal gospel principle. | Jesus, in the Sermon on the Mount, said, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48) Here is an eternal gospel principle. |
There follow other eternal principles, some form the Ten Commandments. | There follow other eternal principles, some form the Ten Commandments. |
Also included are rules and programs intended to implement these principles among the ancient Hebrews in their particular circumstances. | Also included are rules and programs intended to implement these principles among the ancient Hebrews in their particular circumstances. |
For example, the divinely directed responsibility to care for the poor is taught. A program is presented, vis. providing food for the poor by leaving the gleanings of the crops and not reaping the corners of the fields. (Leviticus 19:9-10) Current programs to care for the poor are much different. The divine law is the same. Yet another principle underlies both programs, ancient and modern, i.e. those being assisted are given opportunity to participate in helping themselves to the extent of their capacity. | For example, the divinely directed responsibility to care for the poor is taught. A program is presented, vis. providing food for the poor by leaving the gleanings of the crops and not reaping the corners of the fields. (Leviticus 19:9-10) Current programs to care for the poor are much different. The divine law is the same. Yet another principle underlies both programs, ancient and modern, i.e. those being assisted are given opportunity to participate in helping themselves to the extent of their capacity. |
In verse 13 the principle of honesty is taught accompanied by a rule requiring employers to pay employees for their work at the end of each day. | In verse 13 the principle of honesty is taught accompanied by a rule requiring employers to pay employees for their work at the end of each day. |
Generally, today that rule is not necessary. | Generally, today that rule is not necessary. |
The eternal principle of honesty is implemented by other rules and practices. | The eternal principle of honesty is implemented by other rules and practices. |
Verse 27 contains a rule about personal grooming, it is clearly not applicable to us. | Verse 27 contains a rule about personal grooming, it is clearly not applicable to us. |
However, we also have standards of dress and grooming. | However, we also have standards of dress and grooming. |
Neither is an eternal principle; both are intended to help us implement and share gospel principles. | Neither is an eternal principle; both are intended to help us implement and share gospel principles. |
The principle of forgiveness is set forth in the same chapter of Leviticus, verse 18, concluding with the second great commandment, "....thou shalt love they neighbor as thyself." with the added divine imprimatur, "...I am the Lord." | The principle of forgiveness is set forth in the same chapter of Leviticus, verse 18, concluding with the second great commandment, "....thou shalt love they neighbor as thyself." with the added divine imprimatur, "...I am the Lord." |
Every church member has |
Every church member has the opportunity, right, and privilege to receive a personal witness regarding gospel principles and Church practices. |
Without such assurance, one may feel confused and perhaps even burdened by what may appear to be simply institutional requirements of the Church. | Without such a witness, one may feel confused and perhaps even burdened by what may appear to be simply institutional requirements of the Church. |
We should obey the commandments and counsel of Church leaders; | |
but also through study, through prayer, and by the influence of the Holy Spirit, we should seek and obtain an individual, personal witness that the principle or counsel is correct and divinely inspired. | |
Then we can give enlightened, enthusiastic obedience, utilizing the Church through which to give allegiance, time, talent and other resources without reluctance or resentment. | Then we can give enlightened, enthusiastic obedience, utilizing the Church through which to give allegiance, time, talent and other resources without reluctance or resentment. |
Happy, fulfilling participation in the Church results when we relate institutional goals, programs and policies to gospel principles and to personal eternal goals. | Happy, fulfilling participation in the Church results when we relate Church goals, programs and policies to gospel principles and to personal eternal goals. |
When we |
When we see the harmony between the gospel and the Church in our daily lives, we are much more likely to do the right things for the right reasons. |
We will exercise self discipline and righteous initiative guided by Church leaders and a sense of divine accountability. | |
The Church aids us in our effort to use our free agency creatively, not to invent our own values and principles, but to |
The Church aids us in our effort to use our free agency creatively, not to invent our own values and principles, and interpretations but to learn and live the eternal truths of the gospel. |
Gospel living is a process of continuous individual renewal and improvement until the person is prepared and qualified to enter comfortably and with confidence into the presence of God. | Gospel living is a process of continuous individual renewal and improvement until the person is prepared and qualified to enter comfortably and with confidence into the presence of God. |
My brothers and sisters, by inclination, training and experience, most of my life I have sought understanding by the accumulation of facts and the application of reason. | My brothers and sisters, by inclination, training and experience, most of my life I have sought understanding by the accumulation of facts and the application of reason. |
I continue to do so. | I continue to do so. |
However, that which I know most surely and which has most significantly and positively affected my life I do not know by facts and reason alone, but rather by the comforting, confirming witness of the Holy Spirit. | However, that which I know most surely and which has most significantly and positively affected my life I do not know by facts and reason alone, but rather by the comforting, confirming witness of the Holy Spirit. |
By that same Spirit I testify that God is our Father, the Jesus of Nazareth is the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh and that he is the Savior and Redeemer of all mankind and each of us. | By that same Spirit I testify that God is our Father, the Jesus of Nazareth is the Only Begotten of the Father in the flesh and that he is the Savior and Redeemer of all mankind and each of us. |
Through his atoning sacrifice, redemption and exaltation are offered as a free gift to all who will accept by faith, repentance and sacred covenants. | Through his atoning sacrifice, redemption and exaltation are offered as a free gift to all who will accept by faith, repentance and sacred covenants. |
May each of us continue to learn and apply the eternal principles of the gospel, utilizing fully and appropriately the resources of the divine restore Church. | May each of us continue to learn and apply the eternal principles of the gospel, utilizing fully and appropriately the resources of the divine restore Church. |
In the words of the Nephite leader Pahoran, "... may we rejoice in the great privilege of our church and in the cause of our Redeemer and our God." (Alma 61:14) In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. | In the words of the Nephite leader Pahoran, "... may we rejoice in the great privilege of our church and in the cause of our Redeemer and our God." (Alma 61:14) In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. |
From Wikipedia: In the October 1984 general conference of the LDS Church, Poelman delivered a sermon entitled "The Gospel and the Church". Controversy ensued when the version of his sermon that was published in the November 1984 Ensign magazine differed significantly from the sermon Poelman had delivered orally.[5] Further, the videotape copies of general conference that were included in church archives and distributed throughout the church contained Poelman delivering the revised version of his sermon. A "cough track" was included in the retaping to make it appear that the revised sermon was delivered in front of an audience.[6]
One commentator has criticised the changes to the sermon as a dramatic shift in the meaning of Poelman's address:
"The rewriting and refilming of Elder Ronald Poelman's October 1984 Conference address, originally a rare and inspiring defense of free agency, so that it became yet another cry for obedience. His text was not edited his ideas were turned inside out."[7]
Poelman was not invited to speak in general conference again for four and a half years.
"I know that Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God, that this is the Gospel of salvation, and if you do not believe it you will be damned, every one of you"
(Journal of Discourses 4:298, March 29, 1857).
On October 9, 1859, Young said,
"From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are -- I with you and you with me. I cannot go there without his consent"
(Journal of Discourses 7:289).
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
"If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph"
--Brigham Young
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
That's because he IS!
After all; Christ's message has been CORRUPTED and what any other 'church' than LDS teachs is ABOMINABLE!
Our Beloved Founder RESTORED the gospel: NOT a return by Jesus to straighten things out!
--MormonDude(Praise to the man who communes with Jehovah!)
Added stuff... Changed stuff... Rearranged stuff... Removed stuff...
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“The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the kingdom of God on Earth administered by the priesthood of God. “
That would seem to imply that it is the one true church. How very Catholic of them.
It sounds like something that can be changed by Latter Day Prophesy. Hence, the LD in LDS.
You folks are always shooting at a moving target.
Like that tagline!
After being approved by the Quorum of Twelve...
INTERNATIONAL
PRESS RELEASE:
CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY CENSORS
NET ACCESS FOR MEMBERSCensorWare Software May Cause Increase In ISP Support Calls.
July 1998
6th July 1998 (ARSCC Press Agency) - The controversy over the use of censorware software entered a new phase this month, with the revelation that a CD issued by the Church of Scientology to its members contains a hidden filter designed to prevent them from using their Internet connection to read a wide range of web pages, email and newsgroups which contain words that the Church of Scientology has determined to be "off limits" to Scientologists. Of particular concern to ISP's will be the fact that, because of the way that the software censors text at the protocol level, it interferes with the dialog for any transaction containing a forbidden word, and does so in such a way as to cause the TCP/IP connection to fail, apparently inexplicably. For ISP's providing service to individuals with such software installed, the result can only be an increase in the number of support calls received by people experiencing problems with email downloads or WWW pages, imposing an additional and wholly undeserved burden on such ISP's.
A group of regular posters to the Internet newsgroup alt.religion.scientology, having had sight of the Church of Scientology's censorware software, has commenced the task of analysing its operation in order to determine the methods by which it works, the list of banned words and phrases, and how, if it is required, the software can be deinstalled.
Significant progress has already been made, with the identification of the files which constitute the censorware, how they interfere with the normal running of the networking protocol stack in Windows, and a first cut at the contents of the ban lists. Much work remains to be done: at present, it is not known how the lists are stored in memory and how the software itself uses the lists to block access to the forbidden sites. We are, however, confident that the progress made so far will continue unabated, and that we will be in a position to fully document the operation of this filter in the near future.
GEt a different ISP!
I just did, LOL!
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