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To: Salvation

“I know — the Immaculate Conception.”

Not for us. We do not subscribe to the dogma of the Immaculate Conception as it seems to us to be a Christological heresy unknown to the consensus Patrum (unknown even to +Thomas Aquinas).

“But don’t you celebrate the Visitation at a different time than the Romnan Catholic Church does?”

Yes, on March 30th...just short of nine months before the Feast of the Nativity. It is a relatively recent feast, dating only back about 150-200 years IFRC. Do you know when the Latin Church started celebrating it?


6 posted on 12/08/2009 3:31:47 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
... First celebrated by the Franciscans in 1263 at the initiative of St. Bonaventure. Then, during the Western Schism, it wqas extended to the whole Church by Popes Urban VI (reigned 1378-89) and Boniface IX (reigned 1389-1404) to obtain an end to the schism.

Apart from the Visitation, the Franciscans were pro-Immaculate Conception and the Dominicans, including Aquinas, were anti- .

My observation is that the Franciscans and Dominicans were all me.

7 posted on 12/08/2009 6:34:40 PM PST by Tax-chick (Here I come, with a sharp knife and a clear conscience!)
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To: Kolokotronis

I wasn’t aware of this difference surround the Immaculate Conception. Was that part of the split with the Roman Church and the Orthodox Church?


9 posted on 12/08/2009 10:18:00 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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