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Posted on 12/08/2009 11:41:52 AM PST by Gamecock
Your replies are the most rational and reasonable without calling anyone any names....good for you...
Yes, and I don’t know why because the first part comes directly from the Holy Bible and the last is inferred by the fact that Mary is the mother of Jesus who was fully God while he was fully human.
I wasn’t aware that Orthodox Presbyterians were such a mixture of ignorance and arrogance. As a loving Catholic I will pray that you will either shed your ignorance or learn to hide it better.
Awwwwwww . . . .
how . . . thuhweeet . . .
[please excuse me, I think I have a sudden gagging reflex]
Actually, joking aside . . .
Jesus is my focus . . . All else is chaff or durn close to it.
I’m a Catholic, my husband was a Protestant.
It’s only those who must cut others down to rationalize their own beliefs who don’t get along. Look at this thread. Only a couple of people are tiffing.
Most love each other.
We must be careful to avoid judging from the specific to the general. I would be distressed if anyone who knew me concluded that all Catholics were as sinful as I am.
And they do this because God was too busy to hear them? Or the Holy Spirit, which dwells in us and intercedes for us, isn't good enough to talk to God directly, but needs heavenly human spirits to do the talking?
I believe in the power of intercessory prayer, because it's use is spelled out in the Bible. But in the Bible, the intercessor is a living human here on earth.
Of course, it does not bother me in the least if others get comfort from a belief that their prayers are heard by loved ones or others in heavan, and that they are passed on to God and made more effectual. I don't see any biblical reason to believe that myself, but there is certainly much I don't understand.
I assume you wrote this with your hazmat suit on.
Very true. I will be more careful.
I always point to the Transfiguration, when Peter, James and John saw a transfigured Christ speaking to Moses and Elijah. Both Moses and Elijah had been "dead" for centuries. But there they were, clearly alive enough to chat.
I especially like those “sola” fantasies!
I have yet to find them in the Bible, even when I asked at BSF.
Nice post, but it made me think (although not exactly on topic)...
A Catholic has many things they feel compelled to do, that seem to be tied to their relationship with God and their salvation. Church attendance, confession, baptism, communion are all very important. I don’t presume that a Catholic who fails to meet those obligations would be at risk for eternal damnation, I suppose a learned Catholic here could enlighten me on that point.
But here are us protestants, living what appears to be a much less ordered life, a much less restrictive life. We never see the inside of a confessional, we never take what the Catholics would see as a true communion, we do not worship in the appropriate ways, times, and places.
But we still are allowed the possibility of heaven. Is there anything we lose in eternity because of our choice of denomination, from a Catholic perspective? Does the choice matter? Should our Catholic brethren be working harder to bring us back to the fold, so we get all the blessings available in Heaven for us, or is that not an issue?
Christianity is defined by the set of beliefs espoused by Christ Himself. To my mind, this is not as dependent on lineage or continuity as it is on faithful interpretation of the Word of God. In short, you’re unlikely to sway my opinion by stating that there was a different Biblical interpretation in 1400AD. In my opinion, the men of 1400AD were just as likely as we are to be wrong in their interpretation. And, tradition can often justify practices that are not otherwise justifiable.
The church established by Christ is the Christian church — in many, if not most, respects, we (Catholic and Protestant) are one church of believers in the divinity of Christ. The lineage of every current Christian denomination can therefore be traced back to Christ Himself.
To the extent that there are legitimate disagreements among Christians as to doctrine, I believe every believer is capable of educated interpretation of the scripture.
Some are certainly more educated than others, and, in that respect, the Vatican is a collection of some of the more educated Christian theologians in the world. Some opinions are certainly worthy of greater respect than others.
As a Baptist, I often listen to the Vatican on theological matters. They are not infallible by any stretch — but they are educated enough to be worthy of consideration (even when I disagree).
SnakeDoc
Begat? No wonder we have theological disagreements. Evidently we have biological disagreements! ;-)
I trust in the words of Scripture. ,BR />
There may be a little circularity to your argument. IF Sola Scriptura is the way to go, AND IF immaculate conception/bodily assumption are properly de Fide, then it would follow that God would providentially included something about them explicitly in Scripture.
But, arguendo only, IF the Scriptures do, as we maintain, speak authoritatively about the CHurch's teaching charism, THEN believing in Scripture would lead one also to believe in the magisterium, and so to believe what was declared to be de Fide.
So from our side of the divide we do not think that trusting the teaching charism of the Church which was "sent", that is: apostolic, contradicts trusting in the Scriptures.
They are, and so is everybody else, that's why we need an alien righteousness.
You need to re-read your Catechism....>QUICKLY!!
Stick to Seinfeld.
>>Should our Catholic brethren be working harder to bring us back to the fold, so we get all the blessings available in Heaven for us, or is that not an issue?<<
We are not required to evangelize to you.
We don’t count the number of souls we bring to the Catholic Church because we believe that if you have a good relationship with Christ, you can make it to heaven.
We will tell you if you ask (it’s not a secret club). However, I know that many non-Catholics don’t believe it but Catholics were targeted for a time and we don’t get in your face and put ourselves out as a target.
We believe in free will and you have a choice to join us or not.
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