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Can Catholics Be Christians?
The Orthodox Presbyterian Church ^

Posted on 12/08/2009 11:41:52 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock

What utter bull excrement. I became a Catholic 8 years ago partially because of bull excrement like this. A very good argument could be made that to be a Christian one would have to be a Catholic.


121 posted on 12/08/2009 12:55:28 PM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Petronski; sitetest; Quix
Stop hitting on me. It's unwelcome and really rather creepy.

You might want to tell sitetest that you think he's been "hitting" on Quix. I was just borrowing his explanation.

122 posted on 12/08/2009 12:56:36 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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im still trying to figure out how, and i have yet to hear any refutation or true response, as to how modern day protestants of any stripe, can claim the bible as the sole rule of faith, and continue to use it and claim all these catholic claims are bogus.

I mean, come on, 2000 years ago, before there was any complete bible, there were the apostles, who appointed their successors and bishops who appointed priests who went out with NO BIBLE and preached the gospel.

These people WALKED AND TALKED WITH THE APOSTLES, AND THEIR RIGHTFUL SUCCESSORS, and aligned with Rome on all matters in dispute....showing no inclination toward sola scriptura (those that leaned that way were those who came up with the heresies the papacy had to put down)

How do you modern protestants have the arrogance to claim you and your edited 66 books only bible, claim superior knowledge of the word of God over those that were there? those that walked and talked and WERE TAUGHT BY THE APOSTLES, THEIR SUCCESSORS AND THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH?


123 posted on 12/08/2009 12:56:56 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
Reposted in conformity with RF rules:

What utter falsehood. I became a Catholic 8 years ago partially because of falsehood like this. A very good argument could be made that to be a Christian one would have to be a Catholic.

I thinks conforms also to the tenor of your meaning, yes?

124 posted on 12/08/2009 12:57:01 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Gamecock

For the sake of 1500 years of Catholics prior to the Reformation I hope so. Do you think that Martin Luther finally figured it out?


125 posted on 12/08/2009 12:57:05 PM PST by AZConcervative (Yes, I know it is misspelled, the correct spelling was taken...)
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To: Theo

apparently your knowledge of the Assumption of Mary’s Body into Heaven is scanty.

Apostles were transported from around the world to her bedside to witness her dormition and eventually being carried to heaven by angels.

I know you don’t believe it, but if you do enough digging you will find the quotes with the Early Church Fathers.

PS. What will you say to the Blessed Virgin Mary upon the moment of your death and you find out that you didn’t believe?


126 posted on 12/08/2009 12:58:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Ann Archy

The first Christian was Christ who was a Jew to get picky. To believe that Christ was the Son of God is my basic belief in Salvation. I don’t know what name to call myself.


127 posted on 12/08/2009 12:59:13 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: AZConcervative

“For the sake of 1500 years of Catholics prior to the Reformation I hope so. Do you think that Martin Luther finally figured it out?:

So you believe the Holy Spirit went MIA until Luther?

LOL!


128 posted on 12/08/2009 12:59:33 PM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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To: Alex Murphy
Perhaps sitetest can decide on his own if the use of that term by Quix is innocent or creepy.

Any other “big Perry Mason gotcha moments” there, or is that all you prepared for today?

129 posted on 12/08/2009 12:59:42 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Theo

One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

Can you say that about your church?

Facts, Friend, Facts!


130 posted on 12/08/2009 12:59:42 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: netmilsmom

Thanks. Merry Christmas to you as well! :)


131 posted on 12/08/2009 12:59:56 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: SnakeDoctor
...and thus believe that the Catholic church departed from Christianity in some respects in the interim.

So there is an objective standard for "Christianity," from which one can depart? Good! Please point-out for us which group of Christians, known in the historical record, practiced, in your opinion, the full and error-free "Christianity" available after the death of the last Apostle and before October 31, 1517. No hodge-podge of denominations or mixing and matching between centuries, please. One group, evidently, was the banner- or reference-standard all of these centuries, if, in fact, "Christianity" is internally defined in a palpable way as you indicate. So, which group would that be, shown to have continuous existence from A.D. 33 and able to transmit the one and only, authentic "Christianity"?

132 posted on 12/08/2009 1:00:19 PM PST by magisterium
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To: Antoninus

Amen!


133 posted on 12/08/2009 1:02:32 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MWS

We’re all probably going to be surprised to learn with whom we have to share heaven. Frightening, isn’t it?


134 posted on 12/08/2009 1:02:56 PM PST by Happyinmygarden (Yes, actually, I have pretty much seen and heard it all before...)
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To: joe fonebone

Without the Authority and Infallibility of the Catholic church given by the Holy Spirit there would be no Bible. If the Catholic church was fallible the the Bible is not worth the paper it is printed on.
Because the Protestant do not have this Authority they can take books(Luther) or add books(LDS) to Holy Scripture

(Note not everything the Catholic Church does is infallible it is only on Faith and Morals that the authority to declare infallible exists)


135 posted on 12/08/2009 1:04:23 PM PST by jroneil (2010 is all that matter now!)
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To: Salvation
What will you say to the Blessed Virgin Mary upon the moment of your death and you find out that you didn’t believe?

Otherwise known as the "step on a crack" apologetic....


136 posted on 12/08/2009 1:04:41 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg

Wow!

141 posts in just over 2 hours. That must be close to a record!


137 posted on 12/08/2009 1:05:27 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Happyinmygarden

As a Christian, I for one hope for the salvation of all who live in good faith.

Except for the Amish. Amish guy stole my car once. I don’t trust them. :^)


138 posted on 12/08/2009 1:07:28 PM PST by MWS
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

***I became a Catholic 8 years ago partially because of bull excrement like this.***

That’s an interesting reason to join a religion.

I became a Christian because it’s true, not because non-adherents didn’t agree with it.


139 posted on 12/08/2009 1:08:12 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: wolfman23601
There is not much difference between the Anglicans, the Catholics, the Lutherens

Don't know about Lutherens (sic)but there is for non-elcan Lutherans.

140 posted on 12/08/2009 1:08:16 PM PST by xone
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