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When the Sun Turned Black
Insight Scoop ^ | December 5, 2009 | Paul Glynn, S.M.

Posted on 12/05/2009 6:00:32 PM PST by NYer

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To: lowtaxsmallgov
We had just finished bombing the crap out of Germany's cities, as well.

Guess which way the refugees were flowing in April 45, professor?

261 posted on 12/06/2009 2:09:27 PM PST by skeeter
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To: narses
Why obey the Geneva Accords?

Japan certainly didn't.

Vivisection

Prisoners of war were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia.
Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Scientists performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results. The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.
Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and the fetus removed.
Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss.
Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body.
Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines.
Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.
In 2007, Doctor Ken Yuasa testified to the Japan Times that, "I was afraid during my first vivisection, but the second time around, it was much easier. By the third time, I was willing to do it." He believes at least 1,000 persons, including surgeons, were involved in vivisections over mainland China.
Weapons testing

Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions.
Flame throwers were tested on humans.
Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons and explosive bombs.
Germ warfare attacks

Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects.
To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied.
Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare.
Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected suppencased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 400,000 Chinese civilians
Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians.

Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were actively involved not only in research and development, but also in experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics.

Other experiments

Prisoners were subjected to other experiments such as:
being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death.
having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism. having horse urine injected into their kidneys.
being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death.
being placed into high-pressure chambers until death. being exposed to extreme temperatures and developing frostbite to determine how long humans could survive with such an affliction, and to determine the effects of rotting and gangrene on human flesh.
having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival.
being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead. having animal blood injected and the effects studied. being exposed to lethal doses of x-ray radiation.
having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers.
being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline.
being buried alive. (Victims included infants.)

262 posted on 12/06/2009 2:10:09 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Japan certainly didn’t.”

No they didn’t. They broke many laws, treaties and civilized norms.


263 posted on 12/06/2009 2:42:23 PM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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To: wardaddy
I concur that war has always been hell for everyone caught in its path. I guess what I should've said is that in the twentieth century war's potential hell became omnipresent.

To your last point - whats sobering to me is the feeling things could go 'omega man' much more quickly than I once upon a time thought. As recent events have dramatically brought home, civilization is a hair's breadth from extinction and most of us haven't a clue.

264 posted on 12/06/2009 2:45:16 PM PST by skeeter
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To: NYer

Sounds like a horrible nightmare. However, I’m sure if Iran thought they could get by with doing something like this to the Jews or the USA, they would not hesitate for a minute.

I wonder how many more would have died if the bomb had been on target?


265 posted on 12/06/2009 2:53:08 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: B-Chan

Did the US have plans to use nerve gas in the invasion of Japan? I’ve never heard about that before.


266 posted on 12/06/2009 2:59:44 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: NYer

I wonder what would have happened if Truman, “armed” with a Bible...and Hirohito, “armed” with the writings of Buddha...sat down in front of eachother...and recited a few pertinent verses to eachother in an attempt to find “common ground?” Just me...wondering about the possible...and the impossible. I know...it’s just a pipe dream. But “what if?”


267 posted on 12/06/2009 3:03:18 PM PST by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))
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To: Petronski

Thanks for that link.


268 posted on 12/06/2009 3:03:30 PM PST by TASMANIANRED
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To: magisterium

I’m not ashamed.


269 posted on 12/06/2009 3:13:42 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: NYer

Three cheers for science.


270 posted on 12/06/2009 3:42:39 PM PST by TradicalRC (Secular conservatism is liberalism.)
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To: smokingfrog
Did the US have plans to use nerve gas in the invasion of Japan? I’ve never heard about that before.

The claim is made in an article by Paul Rogers, a professor of England's Bradford University, in his August 2005 article "By any means necessary: the United States and Japan" 1. The article references a story written by historians Norman Polmar and Thomas B Allen called "The Most Deadly Plan", which ran in Proceedings of the US Naval Institute in January 1998. The proposed nerve gas campaign is also described in Power At Sea: The Breaking Storm, 1919-1945 by Lisle A. Rose (2006, University of Missouri Press, ISBN-10: 0826217028), page 412 2.

Both of Rogers' sources refer to two U.S. Army Chemical Warfare Service studies: A Study of the Possible Use of Toxic Gas in Operation Olympic and Selected Aerial Objectives for Retaliatory Gas Attacks on Japan (April, 1944). According to Rogers

The main weapons to be used were two chemical blister agents, phosgene and mustard gas, together with hydrogen cyanide and cyanogen chloride.

At the time of the invasion itself, tactical strike aircraft would drop nearly 9,000 tons of chemical weapons on the defending troops in the first fifteen days, with further attacks planned at the rate of just under 5,000 tons every thirty days from then on. As US troops came ashore, they would bring in howitzers and mortars that could deliver an additional forty-five tons a day of poisonous gas on Japanese positions.

This represented a massive use of chemical weapons, but it was dwarfed in scale by the proposed attacks on Japanese cities. In what the document described as an "initial gas blitz", long-range B-29 and B-24 strategic bombers would attack a large number of cities across Japan – starting with Tokyo, fifteen days before the ground invasion started. Over the next, initial fifteen-day period, over 56,000 tons of gas bombs would be dropped on cities, followed by almost 24,000 tons of gas bombs dropped every month from then on until the war ended or all the planned targets had been hit.

Although this plan was completed only in June 1945, it originated in work started by the Chemical Warfare Service more than eighteen months earlier; as early as April 1944, a detailed study – "Selected Aerial Objectives for Retaliatory Gas Attacks on Japan" – had been completed assessing the vulnerability of cities such as Tokyo, Nagoya and Osaka to gas attack. The analysts believed that their densely populated residential areas, with narrow streets and few open spaces, were particularly susceptible to chemical warfare. Moreover, mustard gas is readily absorbed by wood, and Japanese wooden houses would have been very difficult to decontaminate.

The intention was to maximise casualties, mostly civilian, and the study stated:

"The Gas Attack Program is aimed primarily at causing the maximum number of casualties, crippling transportation and public services, complicating and delaying the repair of HE [high explosive] bomb damage and making targets more vulnerable to incendiary attack."
By June 1945, the full gas-attack plan was submitted to Major General William N Porter, head of the Chemical Warfare Service, detailing fifty urban and industrial targets, including twenty-five cities that were particularly susceptible to gas attack. According to the report, "Gas attacks of the size and intensity recommended on these 250 square miles of urban population … might easily kill 5,000,000 people and injure that many more." 3
While I haven't read either the Army reports or the article from Proceedings, the claim sounds plausible to me.
271 posted on 12/06/2009 4:54:12 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: magisterium
Seriously, do you really believe what you posted:

It is hard to see how a serious Christian can really view a military career as inherently honorable in the sight of God, these days.

272 posted on 12/06/2009 5:34:12 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: dsc; narses
“Even when they raped or murdered innocent civilians?”
 

Oh, narses, that’s not worthy of you.
 

Rapes and murders by Americans in WWII were exceedingly few, and never an instrument of policy, as were the Rape of Nanking and the lesser-known Rape of Manila. 


Thank you, dsc. You rebutted the charge with more charity than I would have.

I have the highest respect for the U.S. military.

273 posted on 12/06/2009 5:47:09 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: Jeff Chandler; dsc

So our military is ALWAYS right? ALWAYS?


274 posted on 12/06/2009 5:48:42 PM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

BTW China currently does much the same with prisoners. Your reaction?


275 posted on 12/06/2009 5:50:04 PM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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To: narses

“So our military is ALWAYS right? ALWAYS?”

What is meant by “our military?” Are we talking about each individual member of the armed forces? Are we talking about official policy?

There were about 16 million people in uniform during WWII, and it would be as silly to claim that no single one of these ever committed a blameworthy act as to assert that a large number of them did.

If memory serves, I think there were about a hundred servicemen executed for rape or murder during the war. Neither Eisenhower nor MacArthur turned a blind eye to such things.

When a man commits such a crime under these circumstances, does he do so as a representative of the armed forces, or as a rogue?

I would assert that the official policy of our armed forces regarding rape and murder has *always* been right, and those institutions have made serious and credible efforts to enforce those policies. With, I would say, a good deal of success. Were it otherwise, the isolated instances of which we are aware would not be so conspicuous.


276 posted on 12/06/2009 5:58:49 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; Petronski
Is there one G-d ? or are there two or three ?

There are 59 Gods, listed below:

  1. Abhoth, The Unclean One, Source of Uncleanness Abhoth, The Unclean One, Source of Uncleanness Aphoom-Zhah, the Cold Flame, Lord of the Pole
  2. Atlach-Nacha , the Spider God
  3. Baoht Z'uqqa-Mogg , the Bringer of Pestilence
  4. Bokrug , the Great Water Lizard, the Doom of Sarnath
  5. Bugg-Shash , The Drowner
  6. Byatis , The Berkeley Toad, the Serpent-Bearded
  7. Chaugnar Faugn, Horror from the Hills, The Feeder
  8. Cthugha, the Living Flame, the Burning One
  9. Cthulhu, the Sleeping God, Master of R'lyeh, Kthulhut
  10. Cthylla, Secret Seed of Cthulhu
  11. Cyäegha appears as a great tentacled eye. the Great Tentacled Eye
  12. Cynothoglys , The Mortician God
  13. Dagon was a major northwest Semitic god, the god of grain and agriculture according the few sources to speak of the matter, worshipped by the early Amorites, by the people of Elba, by the people of Ugarit and a chief god (perhaps the
  14. Dweller in the Gulf , Eidolon of the Blind
  15. Eihort , the Pale Beast, God of the Labyrinth
  16. GhatanothoaIn was a Great Old One, first born son of Cthulhu. He was supposedly trapped beneath four-peaked Mount Voormithadreth in Mu. He was feared, respected, and worshipped by the ancient Muvians because of hi, The Usurper, God of the Volcano
  17. Ghizguth mate of the being Zystulzhegmni and father of Tsathoggua. Cthulhu Mythos.
  18. Ghroth ,Whom Passeth in Darkness
  19. Glaaki resides primarily in a Severn Valley lake near Brichester in England. Glaaki first appeared in The Inhabitant of the Lake an early story by Ramsey Campbell. Glaaki has the appearance of, the Inhabitant of the Lake, Lord of Dead Dreams
  20. Gloon , the Corrupter of Flesh, Master of the Temple
  21. Gol-Goroth , God of the Black Stone
  22. HasturHastur is the god of shep, the Unspeakable, He Who is Not to be Named
  23. Hydra, Mother
  24. HzioulquoigmnzhahHzioulquoigmnzhah was "son" of Cxaxukluth (An avatar of Yeb from Nug and Yeb), "brother" to Cthulhu and Ghizguth, and probably "half-brother" of Hastur. He has had many homes i
  25. Idh-Yaa
  26. Iod , The Shining Hunter
  27. IthaquaIthaqua, the Wind-Walker, the Wendigo Ithaqua is reported from the Arctic to the Sub-Arctic, where Native Americans encountered him. He is known to stalk the wastes, tracking down hapless travelers and carrying them off. Such unfortunates are found weeks, the Wind Walker, the Wendigo, God of the Cold White Silence
  28. Juk-Shabb , God of Yekub
  29. Lloigor (Great Old One), The Star-Treader
  30. Lrogg , Bat God of L'Gy'Hx
  31. MNagalah , The Great God Cancer
  32. Mnomquah
  33. Mordiggian , The Charnel God
  34. Nug and Yeb, The Twin Blasphemies
  35. Nyogtha, The Thing which Should Not Be, Haunter of the Red Abyss
  36. Oorn
  37. Othuum
  38. Othuyeg , the Doom-Walker
  39. Quachil Uttaus , Treader of the Dust
  40. Rhan-Tegoth, He of the Ivory Throne
  41. Rlim-Shaikorth, The White Worm
  42. Saaitii , The Hogge
  43. Sfaticlip
  44. Shathak
  45. Shudde M'ell, the Great Chthonian
  46. Tsathoggua, the Sleeper of N'kai, the Toad-God, Zhothaqqua, Sadagowah
  47. Tulzscha, the Green Flame
  48. The Worm that Gnaws the Night , Doom of Shaggai
  49. Vorvadoss , Troubler of the Sands, Whom Waiteth in the Outer Dark
  50. Vulthoom , Gsarthotegga, the Sleeper of Ravermos
  51. Y'Golonac, The Defiler
  52. Yibb-Tstll, The Patient One, Watcher in the Glade
  53. Yig, Father of Serpents
  54. Ythogtha, the Thing in the Pit
  55. Zhar
  56. Zoth-Ommog
  57. Zushakon, Old Night
  58. Zvilpoggua, Ossadagowah, the Sky-Devil
  59. Zystulzhemgni, Matriarch of Swarms

277 posted on 12/06/2009 6:01:30 PM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: Lazamataz

What about Zul (living in Sigourney Weaver’s fridge as late as 1984)?


278 posted on 12/06/2009 6:03:54 PM PST by Petronski (Global warming is indeed man-made: it was created by man-made manipulation of the data.)
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To: narses

What would be your actual action?


279 posted on 12/06/2009 6:38:45 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: narses

And your response to stop it would have been?


280 posted on 12/06/2009 6:39:18 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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