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Islam and Horse Torture

Posted on 12/04/2009 12:05:50 PM PST by weevil

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On the Muslim holiday Eid al-Adha ('Feast of the Sacrifice'), Muslims rejoice for the descending of the pilgrims back down to the earth. While Ramadan is a time of suffering and lack, where Muslims gouge themselves new wounds and cover themselves with blood in the streets after long fasting, Eid al-Adha is a time of fullness. A dark part of it, not frequently talked about with Westerners, is the torture and murder of innocent horses.

The justification for the torture and murder of innocent horses is contained within Volume 3, Book 47, Number 744 of the Sahih Bukhari Hadeeths:

One day I was sitting with some of the Prophet's companions on the way to Mecca. Allah's Apostle was ahead of us. All of my companions were in the state of Ihram while I was a non-Muhrim. They saw an onager while I was busy repairing my shoes, so they did not tell me about it but they wished I had seen it. By chance I looked up and saw it. So, I turned to the horse, saddled it and rode on it, forgetting to take the spear and the whip. I asked them if they could hand over to me the whip and the spear but they said, 'No, by Allah, we shall not help you in that in any way.' I became angry and got down from the horse, picked up both the things and rode the horse again. I attacked the onager and slaughtered it, and brought it (after it had been dead). They took it (cooked some of it) and started eating it, but they doubted whether it was allowed for them to eat it or not, as they were in the state of Ihram. So, we proceeded and I hid with me one of its fore-legs. When we met Allah's Apostle and asked him about the case, he asked, 'Do you have a portion of it with you?' I replied in the affirmative and gave him that fleshy fore-leg which he ate completely while he was in the state of Ihram.
Unlike the Judeo-Christian methods of animal slaughter which place utmost importance upon ensuring the animal suffers as little as possible, the ritual sacrifice of Eid al-Adha is exceptionally brutal, even compared to commercial slaughterhouse standards. Though the Hadiths specifically mention a 'whip and spear', the practicality has determined a new method for conducting this ceremony. A shafra (a ritual arab knife) is used to messily half-behead the horse. The horse lays there in agony, and you can see the fear in its eyes as it remains there slowly bleeding to death, blood gushing as its throat muscles writhe in panic and desperation.

Don't believe me? There are videos of this sort of thing, though I must warn you that this contains potentially triggering images of blood, gore and animal suffering. I know that it caused me to break down in tears: http://theync.com/media.php?name=11966-horrific-pre-feast

Whenever a discussion of Islam comes up all those who love the animal kingdom have a duty to say the truth:

Islam's founders tortured and murdered horses. To this day, Muslim adherents torture and murder horses. Religions whose traditions include horse-torture have no place in the free world.

There is plenty of other disgusting stuff about horses (and slaves, and all sorts of other beasts) in the Hadiths. They explicitly mention that no charity is ever owed to a horse or a slave. So remember, when we go and invade Muslim countries, we aren't just doing it to spread freedom and democracy, or protect our nation from terror. We are doing it to prevent horses from being tortured to death.

God bless America. Which way, Western man?


TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ethic; moral
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1 posted on 12/04/2009 12:05:51 PM PST by weevil
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To: weevil

The pre-civilized world is taking over while the civilized world watches and nods its approval.


2 posted on 12/04/2009 12:12:53 PM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: weevil

Religion of Peace heads up.


3 posted on 12/04/2009 12:13:01 PM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: weevil

This is so grotesque and evil that I can hardly wrap my mind around it. Horses are such innocent and willign creatures. All they want is kind treatment and to be a herd member - and they’ll ‘join up’ with you with just a little encouragement. It’s a partnership that lasts a lifetime.

Those who practice this barbaric cruelty should be subject to the same treatment.


4 posted on 12/04/2009 12:14:10 PM PST by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: weevil

I’ve always said that you can’t trust any religion which has such a hate on for dogs. Hadn’t heard about this before.

Proverbs 12:10: - “A righteous man regards the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.”

It’s the same with serial killers: a person who is callous and cruel to animals probably doesn’t hold human life in much higher regard.


5 posted on 12/04/2009 12:14:58 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: weevil
Humane is not one of Islams edicts. From what I understand, the halal method of butchering livestock is also disgusting to civil people.
6 posted on 12/04/2009 12:17:49 PM PST by existtoexcel
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To: weevil

Oh how I hate those evil towel heads.


7 posted on 12/04/2009 12:18:21 PM PST by GinaLolaB
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To: weevil

Except for the assertion that Allah is God (i.e., that God is God) everything about Islam is demonic. This is what Walid Shoebat demonstrates. All the “bad guys” in the Jewish Scriptures are the “good guys” in the Koran, and vice versa.


8 posted on 12/04/2009 12:22:21 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: weevil

Sorry, I didn’t have my glasses on.
I thought the headline read “Islam is horse manure”.


9 posted on 12/04/2009 12:22:32 PM PST by tractorman
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To: GinaLolaB

“Oh how I hate those evil towel heads.”

You are not alone. Believe me, you are not alone.


10 posted on 12/04/2009 12:23:03 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: weevil

I *know* the answer!

Have PETA take pictures of a serious hottie with a crescent and put up ads everywhere condemning the practice.


11 posted on 12/04/2009 12:26:40 PM PST by cizinec
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To: weevil

The old pagan ways are strange and cruel. That’s why Christianity brought about the enlightenment of the world, and why multiculturalism is bringing back the dark ages.


12 posted on 12/04/2009 12:28:36 PM PST by pallis
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To: existtoexcel

They have their children perform the cutting of the goats throat at an early age and rub blood on the face to desensitize them.


13 posted on 12/04/2009 12:38:11 PM PST by anglian
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To: cizinec

Actually, PETA doesn’t believe in the use of animals for _anything_ and believe that death of an animal is preferential to the ownership of an animal.


14 posted on 12/04/2009 12:39:07 PM PST by green pastures
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To: tractorman
I thought the headline read “Islam is horse manure”.

That's quite the misread and illogical as well.

Horse manure is valuable, fertilizing fields and aiding in the creation of life where it is spread.

mohammedanism, not really...
15 posted on 12/04/2009 12:45:47 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: weevil

I can”t for the life of me see why that passage requires Muslims to slaughter horses. Or torture them. All it seems to say is that it is all right to eat an onager, (a kind of wild donkey) during some kind of ritual time.

??


16 posted on 12/04/2009 12:50:14 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: weevil

I am so SICK of people who are supposed to be on our side, politicians, pundits, talk radio hosts, et al still saying Islam is a “great” religion, Islam is a Religion of Peace, etc.

I am fed up to here with it. The next time I hear a talk show host spew that garbage, I change the channel.


17 posted on 12/04/2009 12:50:45 PM PST by jazminerose
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To: weevil

Best Buy can wish them a “happy day” for this blood-cult but they won’t say “Merry Christmas”.

Sheesh.


18 posted on 12/04/2009 12:56:22 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Can't get rid of me Jim! Well, you can but you've put up with me so far.)
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To: squarebarb

The Post Office will sell you eid stamps for 44 cents!


19 posted on 12/04/2009 12:57:45 PM PST by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: ought-six

Hatred doesn’t cover what I feel for these demonic bastards. This is satan’s army. They will obliterate and devour everything we love if we let them.

Right now, we’re not even slowing them down. That better change PDQ.


20 posted on 12/04/2009 1:07:00 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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