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To: Godzilla
Get a dictionary, professor is - one that professes, avows, or declares - thus the member of the 'sect' professes the beliefs of that 'sect' - hence professor.

Wow. So every student of a teacher who declares the same principles taught in his class becomes a profesor?

And when someone talks about "professors" in the 1830s, he's really talking about the teacher, the student and, well, ANYONE really. Because, after all, EVERYONE believes and avows SOMETHING.

We're ALL professors now!

Sorry to break it to you, but that statement is false: "...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels." - Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

You might want to mention this part from The Elders Journal too:

Question 3rd. Will every body be damned, but Mormons? Answer. Yes, and a great portion of them unless they repent work righteousness.
Sounds pretty insideous, doesn't it?

These quotes must be understood in light of the Mormon belief about hell and damnation, which differ significantly from most of Christianity.

I'll leave it to you to look it up, if you're interested in getting your facts straight.

Reformed Egyptian from 540 BC using the Greek transliteration "Christ" 540 years before He was born and even before it was present in the greek to begin with.

Wow, almost like it was prophetic or something, huh?

My, the fluff is thick here. Smith went beyond just 'wrong', lets be honest. He wrote in 1 Ne. 14: 10:" And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth."

Yes, that's in the BofM. What's your point?

Are you still unable to differentiate between a CHURCH and the MEMBERS of that church?

This has been fun, but I gotta go now. I'll try and drop in again tomorrow. :-)

336 posted on 12/01/2009 3:17:48 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris; reaganaut; Elsie; Colofornian; greyfoxx39
We're ALL professors now!

Like I said, break open a dictionary - you still remember how to use one don't you? Never heard the phrase "profession of faith", you profess that faith, you become a professor of that faith.

Sounds pretty insideous, doesn't it?

What part of without one exception, do you find difficult to understand? The simple fact is smith did condemn members and not just the pastors/priests/ministers.

These quotes must be understood in light of the Mormon belief about hell and damnation, which differ significantly from most of Christianity.

Oh indeed I am aware friend. So what exactly is the "portion" for the devil and his angels? Why it is that outer darkness thing isn't it, not one of the three realms. So ALL the priests and ALL the followers are condemned to this same location.

You might want to mention this part from The Elders Journal too:
Question 3rd. Will every body be damned, but Mormons? Answer. Yes, and a great portion of them unless they repent work righteousness.

Yes, it just confirms what smith stated in my quote, I will be damned unless a mormon and assigned to the same punishement - by smith's own words.

Wow, almost like it was prophetic or something, huh?

More like made up, just another nail in the spuriousness of the bom.

Yes, that's in the BofM. What's your point?
Are you still unable to differentiate between a CHURCH and the MEMBERS of that church?

Poor reading comprehension must be a requirement to be a mormon. What part of whoso belongeth do you fail to recognize as refering to members. Certainly this is not a condemnation of a building. If I say you belongeth to the mormon church, does that mean you are a member or a piece of property.

339 posted on 12/01/2009 3:38:48 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: TChris; Godzilla

A PROFESSOR, in common 19th century English, meant “one who professes”. It has nothing to do with teaching.

If I say “I profess the Christian faith”, then I am a “professor of Christianity”, not that I am a teacher.

Therefore, a “professor” of a sect, is one that professes the beliefs of a sect, that includes ALL members.


395 posted on 12/01/2009 6:22:42 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: TChris
Yes, that's in the BofM. What's your point?

So are THESE:


Jacob 2:27-30
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; OTHERWISE they shall hearken unto these things.

464 posted on 12/02/2009 3:59:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TChris
Are you still unable to differentiate between a CHURCH and the MEMBERS of that church?

Are YOU unable to understand that it's the MEMBERS who make the 'church' either good or bad?

465 posted on 12/02/2009 4:01:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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