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To: TChris; Elsie; ejonesie22; Godzilla; greyfoxx39; Colofornian

Wow. That is some spin. It wasn’t the membership, just their belifs. OY. Are they really teaching that now? Because that is FAR from what I was taught 20 yrs ago when I was LDS. But then again, the Protestant minister in the temple was still the hireling of Satan.

And regarding how they felt about members of other churches, what about these quotes? Sounds like they are lumping us all in together.

2nd LDS President Brigham Young - “when the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness” (Journal of Discourses 5:73).

“The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God” (Journal of Discourses 8:171).

“With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world” (Journal of Discourses 8:199).

“Brother Taylor has just said that the religions of the day were hatched in hell. The eggs were laid in hell, hatched on its borders, and kicked on to the earth” (Journal of Discourses 6:176).

The “Brother Taylor” Young refers to is John Taylor, who after Brigham’s death in 1877, became the third president of the LDS Church. Here are some of his feelings toward Christianity:

“We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense…the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century” (Journal of Discourses 6:167).

“What! Are Christians ignorant? Yes, as ignorant of the things of God as the brute beast.” (Journal of Discourses 6:25).

“What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing….Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest of fools; they know neither God nor the things of God” (Journal of Discourses 13:225).

LDS Apostle Orson Pratt - “…all other churches are entirely destitute of all authority from God; and any person who receives Baptism or the Lord’s supper from their hands highly offend God, for he looks upon them as the most corrupt of all people” (The Seer, pg. 255).

First Counselor (to Brigham Young) Heber C. Kimball - “Christians - those poor, miserable priests Brother Brigham was speaking about - some of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth….” (Journal of Discourses 5:89).


301 posted on 12/01/2009 2:32:28 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Wow. That is some spin. It wasn’t the membership, just their belifs. OY. Are they really teaching that now? Because that is FAR from what I was taught 20 yrs ago when I was LDS.

No, not really. All your quotes pretty much add up to the same thing. The doctrines were false and had led people astray.

To lead people astray from the truth is the work of Satan, is it not? Now that is NOT to say that people who have been led astray from the truth have WILLINGLY or KNOWINGLY followed Satan, after all, he is the master deceiver.

These are the same brothers and sisters we work so hard to teach and enlighten and convert. Would we do that if we HATED them and thought them to be willing followers of Satan?

We believe good Christians are deceived and astray, not evil and damned for eternity.

317 posted on 12/01/2009 2:56:56 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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