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To: wagglebee
U-2012>I suggest you familiarize yourself with a Messianic Passover Haggadah,

It will explain both the four cups of wine and the afikomen.

Be aware that Yah'shua only drank three of the four cups at the Last Passover.

He said He would drink the fourth cup in heaven with us at the marriage feast of the Lamb.

Thanks, but I'll stick with what the Church has practiced for nearly two thousand years and reject your 19th century new age theories.

If you review the scriptures and the early ante-Nicene writers
you will find the followers of the Christ celebrated YHvH's Passover.

See Quartodecimanism

Passover was celebrated by the followers of the Christ
until Constantine's Roman church condemned
the practice of celebrating YHvH's Passover
replacing it with the Pagan feast of Easter.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
55 posted on 11/24/2009 11:51:18 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Passover was celebrated by the followers of the Christ until Constantine's Roman church condemned the practice of celebrating YHvH's Passover replacing it with the Pagan feast of Easter.

St. Constantine was never Pope of the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church did not begin using the title "pontiff" until the 7th or 8th century. Christ Himself (the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity) replaced Passover with the Holy Eucharist at the Last Supper. The Catholic Church celebrates a Christian Easter, remembering with great joy that Sunday morning when Christ was Resurrected!

Just what is a pagan Easter, anyway? Too much ham and chocolate?

57 posted on 11/24/2009 11:56:37 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012; Petronski
If you review the scriptures and the early ante-Nicene writers you will find the followers of the Christ celebrated YHvH's Passover.

No, the early Christians who were born Jews celebrated Passover AND they celebrated the Holy Eucharist.

Passover was celebrated by the followers of the Christ until Constantine's Roman church condemned the practice of celebrating YHvH's Passover replacing it with the Pagan feast of Easter.

Wrong. Jewish Christians in the early Church celebrated Passover and the Holy Eucharist.

Constantine BECAME a Christian (he was born a pagan), but had no influence on Church theology and he certainly didn't start any religious movement.

I'm curious, do you ever go to threads started by anti-Catholic bigots (by this I mean certain Calvinists, Pentecostals and such) on FR and tell them that their belief in the Easter Resurrection is pagan? Do you tell the anti-Catholic bigots that the Holy Trinity is pagan? If so, could you give me links to these threads?

58 posted on 11/24/2009 12:04:18 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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