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Vatican prepares for extraterrestrial disclosure
The Honolulu Examiner ^ | November 12, 2009 | Michael Salla, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/19/2009 8:53:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Vatican has just completed a five day conference on astrobiology where scientists convened to discuss the detection and implications of extraterrestrial life. A major driving force behind the conference was the Director of the Vatican Observatory, the Jesuit priest Father Jose Gabriel Funes. In May 2008, Funes gave an interview to the Vatican’s L’Osservatore Romano newspaper saying that the existence of intelligent extraterrestrials posed no problems to Catholic theology. The conference itself was officially convened by the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences, chaired by its religious leader Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, and was held on private Vatican grounds from November 6-10. Together with Funes’ 2008 interview and subsequent public comments by him, the conference demonstrates a welcome openness by the Vatican on the possibility and implications of extraterrestrial life. The Vatican’s openness to discussion of extraterrestrial life is no accident. It is part of an openness policy secretly adopted by the United Nations in February 2008. In fact, the Vatican is playing a leading role in preparing the world for extraterrestrial disclosure.

For most observers, the conference was an innovative scientific gathering sanctioned by the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences to show the Holy See’s support for modern science in the detection of extraterrestrial life. The conference primarily focused on the detection of primitive extraterrestrial life forms, and featured presentations from nearly 30 international experts in astronomy, physics and biology. Marc Kaufman from the Washington Post reports:

Scientists (many of them nonbelievers) are offering presentations on subjects as varied as how life might have begun on Earth; what newly found "extremophile" microbes living in harsh places on our planet might tell us about possible life on others; and how life forms might be detected in our solar system, or how their bio-signatures might be found on and around the many distant exoplanets.

Discussion of the implications of intelligent extraterrestrial life, both scientific and theological, did not appear prominently in the conference agenda. One of the presenters, however, Prof Paul Davies commented on the religious implications of discovering intelligent extraterrestrial life: "If you look back at the history of Christian debate on this, it divides into two camps. There are those that believe that it is human destiny to bring salvation to the aliens, and those who believe in multiple incarnations," Davies pointed out that the multiple incarnations theory, the idea that multiple examples of Jesus Christ would be found in the universe “is a heresy in Catholicism."

The Vatican, through Funes, is supporting the idea that the incarnation of Christ is a unique event in Earth’s history tied in to humanity’s ‘fall’ and ‘original sin’. This idea was a major focus in Father Funes’ May 2008 interview which was titled "The extraterrestrial is my brother." Funes said that intelligent extraterrestrial life may not have experienced a ‘fall’, and may be “free from Original Sin … [remaining] in full friendship with their creator.” This makes it possible to regard them as ‘our brothers’ as Funes explained:

Just as there is a multiplicity of creatures on earth, there can be other beings, even intelligent, created by God. This is not in contrast with our faith because we can't put limits on God's creative freedom… "Why can't we speak of a 'brother extraterrestrial'? It would still be part of creation…

Most importantly, Funes’ statement makes possible the idea that Christianity can be exported to extraterrestrial worlds that have not experienced a ‘fall’ and are free from original sin.

The Vatican’s new openness on extraterrestrial life is consistent with reports of secret discussions held at the United Nations that began in February 2008. The Vatican’s permanent representative to the UN, Archbishop Celestino Migliore, was reported to have attended along with a number of other prominent government officials to discuss increased UFO sightings and the implications of extraterrestrial visitation. Significantly, Migliore's position requires that he maintains close relations with the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences. At the time of the secret UN discussions, Migliore made a presentation on moral issues associated with scientific problems such as climate change. Most importantly, the UN discussions reportedly led to a new policy of openness being adopted by approximately 30 nations that would begin in 2009.

Another noteworthy participant reported to have attended the 2008 UN discussions was Britain’s Permanent representative at the time, Sir John Sawers. Sawers was later appointed to head Britain’s prestigious foreign intelligence service MI6. The appointment of a diplomat to head an intelligence service was highly unusual. According to a BBC report: “giving the job to someone more recently associated with diplomatic service was regarded as a break from the tradition.” Seen in the context of the February UN meetings, perhaps MI6 was acknowledging the need for greater diplomacy in dealing with problems posed by a new openness policy on UFOs, and eventual disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

The Vatican sponsored astrobiology conference was a landmark event. It showed that the Vatican was willing to officially sanction public discussions on the existence of extraterrestrial life. More significantly, it showed that the Vatican was willing to initiate a comprehensive dialogue on the theological implications of the discovery of intelligent extraterrestrial life. The Vatican’s astrobiology conference is yet one more sign that major global institutions are preparing for some kind of formal disclosure concerning UFOs and/or extraterrestrial life. This is a direct outcome of a series of landmark meetings at the UN beginning in February 2008 that led to the adoption of a new openness policy.

After more than a year of openness, the Vatican is taking the openness policy to a new level, and preparing the public for some kind of formal extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. Numerous independent sources have predicted such disclosure is imminent, and that the Obama administration is expected to play a prominent role. The Vatican is also positioning itself to play a major role in such an announcement and in a post-disclosure world. Its emerging theological position that extraterrestrials “are our brothers” is a welcome departure from more hostile depictions of extraterrestrial life found in some religious denominations and in Hollywood movies. On the other hand, the idea that the Vatican could justify sending missionaries to convert extraterrestrials born without original sin, does raise major concerns. The Vatican, nevertheless, is currently playing a constructive role in preparing the public for the imminent disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

[Event Notice: Dr Michael Salla will speak about the theological implications of extraterrestrial life at the upcoming Earth Transformation Conference on the Big Island of Hawaii (January 7-12, 2010).]


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Comment #241 Removed by Moderator

To: Ransomed

I didn’t believe in them for a long time . . . and still hold my belief in them somewhat tentatively.

It’s just that so many folks of such diverse backgrounds report having seen them and some interacted at length with them . . . that such allegations are toooo numerous and substantive to just wish them away.

I thought you didn’t believe in such but I don’t keep everyone’s sensibilities on such matters remotely straight without a LOT of frequent interaction about it.

Thanks.


242 posted on 11/21/2009 10:33:13 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Salamander
People gripe because this or that “isn’t mentioned in the Bible”.

Few people read their Bibles anyway. Can you imagine if it was 5 times thicker? Just to handle every twit and twaddle people want to read to cover EVERY scenario in life.

243 posted on 11/21/2009 10:39:46 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

LOL

Excellent point.


244 posted on 11/21/2009 11:00:37 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mountn man; Quix
"Few people read their Bibles anyway"

If we literally believed that we held in our hands the secret of eternal life,the fountain of eternal youth,the key that unlocks the mysteries of the universe,the record of past,present and future events and outcomes,the actual script and outline of history,in short,the message from the Creator and sustainer of the cosmos to us,then we would never let it out of our sight let alone hardly read it!

"this is the work of God,that ye believe on Him Whom He has sent"

245 posted on 11/22/2009 12:39:04 AM PST by mitch5501 (Yeah,but is it shatterproof?)
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To: Quix

Quix,

Nowadays I just try to avoid the overly contentious posts and threads.

So I don’t know.

They say that sex, politics, and religion are the three topics that should not be discussed in polite company. Maybe your point illustrates why.


246 posted on 11/22/2009 2:36:59 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Vatican, England and France pressure the US for UFO Disclosure.

(Includes discussion of Dr. Steven Greer in Tempe, Arizona.)

http://blessedistruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/magical-child/#comment-338


247 posted on 11/22/2009 10:21:35 AM PST by rosettasister
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To: nralife

Well, Catholics have been falling for it since the visions of Mary in years past...


248 posted on 11/22/2009 10:23:34 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: mountn man

Yup.

God should have at least put a few handy recycling and home cleaning tips in there.

[in a chapter called “Hints From Elohim”]

:::rolls eyes:::


249 posted on 11/22/2009 10:35:47 AM PST by Salamander (I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.....)
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To: Salamander
Yup.

God should have at least put a few handy recycling and home cleaning tips in there.

[in a chapter called “Hints From Elohim”]

:::rolls eyes:::

Or :
"Thou shalt not wear white after Labor Day"

250 posted on 11/22/2009 11:52:37 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Quix
Speaking as the only TRUE Mad Dawg on FR, I resemble that remark.

I haven't been able to be online much - since I have to drive to the lie-berry to use their wireless - but I heard this song as I drove into town yesterday and (a)just about drove off the road and (b)thought of you.

(You Got To Pray To The Lord) When You See Those Flying Saucers: The Buchanan Brothers [1947]

You’d better pray to the Lord when you see those flying saucers
It may be the coming of the Judgment Day
It’s a sign there’s no doubt
Of the trouble that’s about
So I say my friends you’d better start to pray

They’re a terrifying sight as they fly on day and night
It’s a warning that we’d better mend our ways
You’d better pray to the Lord
When you see those flying saucers
It may be the coming of the Judgment Day

Many people think the saucers might be someone’s foolish dream
Or maybe they were sent down here from Mars
If you’ll just stop and think
You’d realize just what it means
They’re more than atom bombs or falling stars

And though the war may be through there’s unrest and trouble brewin’
And those flying saucers may be just a sign
That if peace doesn’t come
It will be the end of some
So repent today, you’re running out of time

When you see a saucer fly like a comet through the sky
You should realize the price you’ll have to pay
You’d better pray to the Lord
When you see those flying saucers
It may be the coming of the Judgment Day

251 posted on 11/25/2009 11:32:49 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: markomalley

:)Avoid what markomalley?Space Boy is saying the Blessed Mother is an Alien.


252 posted on 11/26/2009 7:41:37 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

I canceled a thread for the troops .You delayed my posts.


253 posted on 11/26/2009 7:57:39 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...
UFO PING LIST: above average PING.

I should have some more to post related to the OP topic before too many days . . . been reading books by Paola Leopizzi Harris . . . I met her at the recent Aztec conference. Top flight researcher, woman, writer. She has lived next door, literally, to the Vatican for some years and has had a number of high level contacts there related to UFO's.

Below is a very interesting Journal by Whitley Strieber. I post it per the permission he gave me years ago to do so hereon. It sounds like some hard tangible evidence is surfacing yet again.

Paola Harris has a ton of stuff in her later books that I haven't seen posted hereon either.

TIMES ARE A CHANGIN' FOLKS. And those willfully blind and/or with their heads in the sand are likely to pay dearly for such willful ignorance--at least emotionally, if not otherwise.

Here's the link:

http://www.unknowncountry.com/journal/

Here's Whitley's journal:


Two Profoundly Important Dreamlands
07-Apr-2010

There is no apparent relationship between this week's Dreamland and the show that will air next week, but, in fact, the two are profoundly related because they end two related controversies, which are, without question, the most important in the world.

The scientific community and the mass media will not react. Nobody is going to send up rockets. On the surface, the world will not change. But for those of us who are living and working at the leading edge of knowledge, everything has just changed.

Specifically, we now know for certain that there was a genetically modified male creature living on this planet roughly 900 years ago in an isolated area of northern Mexico. It died in middle age, and was joined in death by a human woman, whose skeleton was found lying with her arms around it.

This creature's DNA shows conclusively that it was partially human and partially of unknown parentage. Its bones, which are much lighter than human bones, also contain very tough fibers, also unknown, which serve to strengthen the skeleton. No such fibers have ever been found in any other skeleton on earth, and no known creature has the DNA encoding necessary for such fibers to grow in its bones.

The creature had a human mother. It is the father that was unknown. It is not related to the woman who was found beside it.

This means, very simply, that an extraordinary hybrid individual died at that time in an isolated area of northern Mexico, and was joined in death by a female human being. The cause of death of either person remains unknown.

On Dreamland this week (04/10/10) Lloyd Pye describes the genetic studies that have been done to make the determinations above. Then, for Unknowncountry subscribers, Lloyd and I have a very frank discussion about the implications of sexual contact with aliens, and the extraordinary technological accomplishment that would be involved in making a successful genetic hybrid of this sort.

Then, next week, I talk with Dr. Roger Leir, "John Smith" and Dr. Robert Koontz about the implant that was removed from "John Smith" last year. "John Smith" is himself a scientist doing very advanced work involving carbon nanotubes. Dr. Koontz is a PhD physicist.

The object removed from Smith has received extensive study, and this study has led to the discovery that the isotopes of the materials found in it are not from earth, but from a planet or other astronomical body that is approximately ninety million years older than earth.

That the material contains any isotopes other than those found here is amazing enough, but that the body they came from would be so much older raises the possibility that the object was fabricated in a place that is much older than earth, therefore by a civilization greatly in advance of our own.

So we have two programs here, one of which discusses hard scientific evidence that a skull found in Mexico that has been carbon dated at 900 years of age is a human-alien mix, and another that shows that extremely advanced technology is being inserted into human beings by a civilization that is probably millions of years older than ours.

Now, science will not only dismiss this, most scientists wouldn't even be bothered to listen to this program, let alone look at the documentation that has been assembled by Lloyd Pye and Dr. Leir, in both cases at a very high level of scientific expertise.

However, the facts are before us, and it's time for those of us who do take an interest to face this reality: somebody with extraordinary scientific skills has been engaged in activities on earth involving the human genome for some time. In addition, somebody is implanting people with devices so sophisticated that we can only speculate about their purpose.

What or who these people are remains unknown. But that they are, and are engaged with us on a deeply physical level, can no longer be denied by anybody with the humility and the courage to look at the data.

I do hope that you make the effort to listen to these two Dreamlands.

You can listen in the following ways"

1. Go to Unknowncountry.com and click on "Listen Now" on the right side of the masthead.

2. In iTunes, go to Podcasts and search on Dreamland.

3. On RadioTime.com, search on Dreamland.

4. On your iPhone, use the Wunderadio app. Search on Dreamland.

5. Download the program from our subscriber area, free of commercials.

6. Navigate to our free podcast page by clicking here.

Consider subscribing to Unknowncountry.com. This is the only place in the world where material like this is discussed in as meaningful a way.

To subscribe, simply click on the "Subscribe" tab above and place your order.

254 posted on 04/12/2010 4:59:25 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Well, dear fellow, we live in interesting times. It seems that the Vatican embraces a view more closely resembling mine rather than the “demon things” conjured up by Guy Marlow.
255 posted on 04/12/2010 5:42:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Perhaps you’d be willing to give a brief outline of how you see such?


256 posted on 04/12/2010 5:46:06 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Perhaps you’d be willing to give a brief outline of how you see such?

I have at length on previous threads. It is not worth the effort to re-repeat myself.

257 posted on 04/12/2010 5:49:28 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

You mean Guy Malone at

http://www.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET

??

I think his research is unparalleled.

However, the critters’ behaviors in support of the global government is sufficient evidence, for me.


258 posted on 04/12/2010 5:50:10 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GingisK

OK.

THX ANYWAY.


259 posted on 04/12/2010 5:51:22 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Vatican has just completed a five day conference on astrobiology...

Fact.

In May 2008, Funes gave an interview to the Vatican’s L’Osservatore Romano newspaper saying that the existence of intelligent extraterrestrials posed no problems to Catholic theology

Fact.

The Vatican’s openness to discussion of extraterrestrial life is no accident. It is part of an openness policy secretly adopted by the United Nations in February 2008. In fact, the Vatican is playing a leading role in preparing the world for extraterrestrial disclosure.

Pure speculation. NOT NEWS

260 posted on 04/12/2010 6:19:08 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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