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1 posted on 11/19/2009 3:59:20 AM PST by freedomyes
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To: freedomyes

Right.. conservatives vs. rinos.. yep


2 posted on 11/19/2009 4:02:43 AM PST by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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Secularists? Nope. One can be secular and a believer.

The left is ATHEIST. They are godless and not just secular.


3 posted on 11/19/2009 4:08:57 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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We are already divided. Us against them. The idiot, wishy-washy independents that cant seem to make up their mind from day to day on what they stand for, might as well be considered leftists, as they are only a tail-wag away from being them anyway. In my opinion, there isnt gonna be a race war, or a religion war, or anything else for that matter. If this country ever does split in two, it will be because of those in the middle and on the left that are trying to destroy the very thing we hold dearest. Just my humble opinion.


5 posted on 11/19/2009 4:27:33 AM PST by scoobysnak71
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. . . those moralists who hold to the God of the Bible

a.k.a. "bitter clingers."

8 posted on 11/19/2009 4:45:01 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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Hmm, second time I see a religious posting from this
J. GRANT SWANK referencing Sarah Palin (Disclosure: Met her last night and found her charming). I wonder about the point of these postings he is making - yesterday it was she was pentecostal, today it is she is a moralist and both articles state she will divide the nation.

I am not criticizing the postings, just wondering what the motivation behind them is. Are we not to like her because she has a moral compass or is from a evangelical group?

Whats the point? I am so Conservative that almost everyone else is in another group and I am divided from them. Even quite a few fiscal conservatives and I differ on social conservatism. That doesn’t make me like them any less for office.

A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad. - Theodore Roosevelt


9 posted on 11/19/2009 4:46:11 AM PST by Patrsup (To stubborn to change now)
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I don’t find this article very compelling. It takes a rather simplistic view of things.


13 posted on 11/19/2009 5:00:19 AM PST by pas
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Further divisions - Sarah Palin Beautiful, Joy Jehar Ugly.


16 posted on 11/19/2009 5:26:43 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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I just hope a qualified Presidential Candidate announces his intentions soon.


18 posted on 11/19/2009 5:40:00 AM PST by GWConservative ( www.AdBirds.com - Better Online Advertising!)
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I disagree strongly with this writer. They argue not for religion vs. no religion, but “my” version of religion vs. everybody else, no matter what they believe.

Among conservatives, there are some who are so single issue oriented that they see everybody else as the enemy.

But news to them, for example, if someone is anti-abortion, it *means* they are anti-abortion, not that all conservatives are anti-abortion, as it is not a litmus test for conservatism. To make matters worse, being anti-abortion *itself* does not mean the same thing to different people.

Does it mean banning all abortions all the time, even if the baby is dead and the mother is about to die, and that the mother is a 12 year old rape victim? There are some people who would say “yes”, but most would say “no”.

So the issue here is what do we mean when we say “conservative?”

Well, there is a spectrum within conservatism as well. Don’t neglect that a lot of conservatives are “status quo happy”, in that they don’t want much change at all, and for government to just not make things worse.

They are just the opposite from the large number of liberals who are just aching to change something, anything. Willing to gamble with the hope of it being better, because they think right now is so rotten.

And certainly, there are religious conservatives, both those who belong to and believe in religion, and those who want to integrate their religious beliefs into the government. Likewise, these are just the opposite of their liberal counterparts, for whom religion is just a social thing, and those who want to drive religion out of the government in any way, and force it into darkness.

Then, there are all sorts of other kinds of conservatives. Those who are very pro-business and pro-prosperity. Those who believe in a potent national defense and anti-crime policies. Those who lean heavily to federalism, and libertarianism. And certainly there is a ton of overlap here.

Lots of agreement and disagreement.


21 posted on 11/19/2009 8:08:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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