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Old Catholics tell Romans to ignore your bishops
Examiner.com ^ | November 16 | Rev. Mother Meredith Moise, SPSA

Posted on 11/17/2009 11:13:30 AM PST by Gamecock

The Southern Province of the North American Old Catholic Church calls on bishops of the Roman sect to abandon their devisive and hate-filled attitude toward lesbian and gay people. The Roman bishops began a meeting on Monday (11/16/2009) in Baltimore, MD, and are expected to issue a major "pastoral letter" against equal rights for gay people.

"It is like they are telling their brothers and sisters: Thou Shalt Not Love," says Archbishop Wynn Wagner, the Regionary Bishop of the Southern Province USA of the North American Old Catholic Church (NAOCC). "They have forgotten the message of love, in their rush toward a notion of post-modernism."

The North American Old Catholic Church has called the month of November a Month of Prayer for those hurt by the Roman bishops' actions. The Old Catholic Church -- being closer to the ancient teachings of Christ -- does not consider gender or sexual orientation to be an impediment to any sacrament, including ordination and marraige.

"We call on adherents of the Roman sect to ignore the pronouncements of the later-day Pharisees," the archbishop continued. "They certainly don't speak for traditional Catholicism. Remember to pray for those bishops and those they hurt."


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: agendadrivenfreeper; catholic; heretics; romanistdespotism; romanistsect
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To: Petronski

You have one-worlder trolls on here pretending to be decent Protestants to give both sides a bad name!

Oh, the hugh manatee!


61 posted on 11/17/2009 12:37:29 PM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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To: Petronski
False bishop of Rome in a dress and Prada footwear...


62 posted on 11/17/2009 12:39:25 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Why don’t you read about the Old Catholics before you post your musings? The Old Catholics left the Church after the Vatican I Council in 1870, which formally defined papal infallibility. I guess what happened- 140 years later, they ordain women and accept homosexuality. It took the Anglicans hundreds of years to get to that point.


63 posted on 11/17/2009 12:39:34 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It was America's first fascist President, a staunch and stiff-necked New Jersey Calvinist named Woodrow Wilson who invented global authority.

You want fascism and global authority, start at Princeton.

Oh, and if you want a more-Calvinist-than-Calvin storefront sect founded by a segregationist pig, move a bit southward to Willow Grove, PA.

64 posted on 11/17/2009 12:39:56 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Your ancestors likely wore “dresses” some time in the past.


65 posted on 11/17/2009 12:40:28 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: marshmallow
Thanks for posting the picture in Post 28.
I err'd in my Post 32 because I thought Wyn was a Womyn - but then I saw the picture you posted and realized I was mistaken...
Eh, that was only a minor sidebar on my post, but my comments about She-Bishops was misplaced...
66 posted on 11/17/2009 12:42:20 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No, no, no. You got it all wrong. The Bishop of Rome is the guy in WHITE.

I suppose old, caucasin males can all kinda look the same.


67 posted on 11/17/2009 12:43:00 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Sarah speaks for me!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
False bishop of Rome in a dress and Prada footwear...

Yeah, you said that already.

His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI, in a cassock and Prada footwear:

Segregationist pig draped in a stunning purple evening gown with plum sash and an air of his own self-righteousness...


68 posted on 11/17/2009 12:43:37 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I’m afraid it is you who is insulting Roman Catholics by your wholly misguided assertion that this fringe group has anything to do with the Catholic Church (I happen to have an earned Ph.D. - in religion & theology, though I choose not to advertise it after my name)


69 posted on 11/17/2009 12:44:59 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I’m afraid it is you who is insulting Roman Catholics by your wholly misguided assertion that this fringe group has anything to do with the Catholic Church (I happen to have an earned Ph.D. - in religion & theology, though I choose not to advertise it after my name)


70 posted on 11/17/2009 12:45:18 PM PST by tjd1454
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To: Petronski

The vast majority of Freepers reading this thread, even if they have disagreements with the Church, would side with the real Catholics on this one. I mean come on. This is the thread they pick to start blasting away??!!

Freegards


71 posted on 11/17/2009 12:45:30 PM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: OpusatFR; Gamecock; Petronski
Do you know the difference between political posturing and political action?

Coolidge and the Republicans rejected the League of Nations and forced the U.S. to reject the treaty

Maybe this is why we see so many liberal Roman Catholics on FR who call themselves "conservative."

They don't know the meaning of the word.

72 posted on 11/17/2009 12:45:49 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Petronski

Ding!

73 posted on 11/17/2009 12:46:02 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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If these are some of the folks who oppose the Catholic Church, the Body of Christ, the Church established by Jesus and headed by the successor of Peter, we must be doin’ all right.


74 posted on 11/17/2009 12:46:02 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: OpusatFR

Never mind that Calvinist indoctrination gave birth to the fascist notion of world governance, look at them papists over there!


75 posted on 11/17/2009 12:46:16 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Calvin Coolidge was heir to an attitude of Know Nothingism.

The Immigration Act of 1924 baring Eastern and Southern Europeans (read Catholic) and Japanese sums up the inner Coolidge nicely.

The bigotry he expressed by signing the Act seems to be inculcated in his inner most beliefs.


76 posted on 11/17/2009 12:47:23 PM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Coolidge and the Republicans rejected the League of Nations and forced the U.S. to reject the treaty.

Calvinist Presbyterian fascist Woodrow Wilson INVENTED the League of Nations, traveled to Paris to attend at its birth, but could not sell it to the Senate. It nonetheless was born and lives on today in its successor form: the United Nations.

77 posted on 11/17/2009 12:48:36 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: OpusatFR
The bigotry he expressed by signing the Act seems to be inculcated in his inner most beliefs.

That same inculcation rears its devilish face in the segregationist attitudes of Gresham Machen.

78 posted on 11/17/2009 12:50:21 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Pyro7480; Gamecock
But earlier up thread we were told that this Old Catholic denomination was created in 2007.

So many RC denominations it's difficult to keep track.

79 posted on 11/17/2009 12:51:22 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Do you know the difference between political posturing and political action?”

Yes, liars posture for political gain, much like old Calvin Coolidge.

To bad his Calvinism glossed over that whole Father of Lies part in theology.


80 posted on 11/17/2009 12:51:54 PM PST by OpusatFR (Tagline not State Approved. Thoughts not State Approved. Actions not State Approved)
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